Have we been conned

[the_hawk*]

What is the truth

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261577/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-Met-Office-report-reveals-MoS-got-right-warming--deniers-now.html

[just_me_karen]

Yep, g'awn, hawkie, show us?

[the_great_she_elephant]

Hawk that sounds like a challenge LOL.

I assume you are referring to the following exchange:

Hawk: Oh Flashie if I am called I may have to offer a few screenies  #66

Flashie: I am calling you.........please show your screenies Hawk........lets put this to rest once and for all #73

We are now up to #130 and so far  I haven't yet seen any screenies produced.

But I think most know the story now so I would just ignore it.

I think most of us have NFI what it's all about.

If you get dirt on your shoes you just whipe it off at the door, well you do in my house

And what do you do when you get egg on your face?

[lionrose.7]

Ele what an earth are you talking about I have no idea myself why you have combined my posts with hawks.

[monman12]

TH again I ask you for at least some scientific references, the CSIRO and BOM will do.

"First they tried to scare us by saying its getting hotter and we wont survive, when that was proved wrong"

It is getting hotter, we will survive, and what was proved wrong? (reference please)

"and john I didnt need a professional scientific body to tell me how a tree works",  OK, but you certainly need to (scientifically) learn the overall effect plants/trees/forests have upon the global carbon budget, because it is not "huge".

"Any one that knows a tree takes in CO2 and returns oxygen into the air must realise that removing vast amounts of rain forest is going to have a huge effect on CO2 levels."

TH. do I have to yet AGAIN post the annual amount of  anthropogenic CO2 that would be in excess even if all the World's removed forests were returned?  More than enough to continue the inexorable annual rise in atmospheric CO2 levels..

Allow me to also point out how a forest (and tree) work once they are older:-

"Truly mature tropical forests, by definition, sequester no net carbon. Growth is equal to decay" Simply put a mature forest is carbon neutral

[the_hawk*]

You are welcome to your opinion and even if you are right about the carbon in the old trees, there is more and much yonger plants on the forest floor that are/were sucking up carbon.

Then what about the effects their destruction is having on changing weather patterns /climate change and this is what they are on about now.

[izabsmiling]

The 2013 climate change wake-up call

Is an extreme heatwave enough for people to start taking the science of climate change seriously in Australia? Dr Paul Willis hopes so.

Bureau map for January 8 shows area of deep purple over Australia. Shades of deep purple and magenta have been added to the forecast map for temperatures up to 54 degrees Celsius (BoM)

The hot weather that has besieged the nation since the beginning of the year and the associated bushfire threat has, I hope, been something of a cathartic experience for Australia. Finally an event that can be linked to climate change has been of such magnitude and impact that many people are now sitting up and taking notice.

Even so, we have been slow off the mark to discuss the linkage between extreme weather events and climate change and those discussions were still limited in extent. I'm hoping that the extreme heatwave is a 'shot across the bow' notice that we need to take climate change seriously — but already the climate denial camp are viewing these extreme events as business as usual.

The USA had a similar experience last year with Superstorm Sandy: a nasty, unprecedented weather eve...pictures of widespread devastation

delivered by a single, freakish storm. Sandy came off the back of an even more devastating drought a...

Finally many Americans started to ask if these were the hallmarks of climate change.

The country which has been the most inactive of nations with respect to recognising climate change a...2012 was the hottest year on record for the continental USA.

But perhaps the greatest influence on the American climate epiphany was not caused by the weather, n...

read more;http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2013/01/17/3670931.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-12/climate-commission-predicts-more-heatwaves-bushfires/4461960

Heatwave exacerbated by climate change: Climate Commission AM By Simon Lauder

Updated Sat Jan 12, 2013

A new report from the Federal Government's Climate Commission says the heatwave and bushfires that have affected Australia this week have been exacerbated by global warming.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-09/temperatures-into-uncharted-waters/4458162

Heat drives bureau back to the drawing board

Updated Wed Jan 9, 2013

The Bureau of Meteorology has been forced to introduce new colours to some of its charts because of recent extreme heat in Central Australia.

Shades of deep purple and magenta have been added to the forecast map for temperatures up to 54 degrees Celsius.

The temperature range was previously capped at 50C.

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[lionrose.7]

Annie 🙂

Gee Hawk now you have gone and done it hahaha

[just_me_karen]

What do you mean, lion?

[lionrose.7]

Sorry Karen that is a secret but WOW