on โ16-09-2014 02:51 PM
An individual who alledges he interrupted a burglary at his home, jumped in his vehicle, trailed the fleeing perpetrator for a distance, then ran him over...........fatally. Some folks on facebook laud him as a hero, far too few bother to examine the consequences of his actions. He had already notified the police, and he was in no fear for his life.
Do you think, with the information provided, he should be indicted for, at least, 2nd degree murder?
Back a few years ago, armed gunmen entered a drugstore in Oklahoma.......the manager wounded one, then chased the others outside. He returned, went into the back room to obtain another weapon, then pumped five more shots into the first thug, who was laying on the floor.
A jury found that he was justified in the first shot, but the following five shots constituted murder, and the manager was sentenced to life in prison. That same week, the other robbers were convicted of murder and sentenced also.
โ17-09-2014 01:39 PM - edited โ17-09-2014 01:40 PM
@steppefjordwyfe10 wrote:I mean with a scenario you at least get written details of the plot, right?
I don't understand this either.
What is the point? Just a bunch of what ifs?
Or did this happen?
Yeah - it's extremely confusing.
Good to see wise people questioning the paucity of information, lack of clarity/constant change to the guidelines of discussion, and also refusing to buy into the condemnatory conclusion being so ardently sought.
I guess posters will take note, and ask themselves why someone would do something like this.
on โ17-09-2014 01:41 PM
so nothing really happened? This is just an excuse for you lot to argue?
Maybe go start a group then, coz your fights make no sense
on โ17-09-2014 01:45 PM
@katydidthat wrote:Self-defence-not available if death inflicted to protect property or trespass to property
420 Self-defence-not available if death inflicted to protect property or trespass to property
This Division does not apply if the person uses force that involves the intentional or reckless infliction of death only:
(a) to protect property, or(b) to prevent criminal trespass or to remove a person committing criminal trespass.===There's some more NSW law ... self-defence (generally) includes defence of property, as well as oneself or another person, but if defence of property goes as far as to result in the death of a person, then the defence of "self-defence" does not apply.So, under NSW law, at least, the home-owner/occupier would not appear to have a leg to stand on - both because the "invader" was fleeing, and because of the above section.===Interesting topic, Band. Thanks for posting ๐
This is apparently an imaginary incident with constantly changing info., but it occurred in Oklahoma (for now; this might change!), and extenuating circumstances might apply, especially as it seems it's being made up by the moment.
Maybe the home invader could be a Venusian not subject to earth law?
on โ17-09-2014 01:47 PM
on โ17-09-2014 02:09 PM - last edited on โ17-09-2014 03:05 PM by li.vish
so nothing really happened? This is just an excuse for you lot to argue?
Maybe go start a group then, coz your fights make no sense
on โ17-09-2014 02:13 PM
Hello, everyone. This discussion is getting a little heated. Could we please communicate with a more civil tone. Thanks!
on โ17-09-2014 02:25 PM
are you saying the US boards still exist? I thought they were shut down?
on โ17-09-2014 02:27 PM
that link wasnt about a guy being run over. so did that really happen or is it a hypothetical?
on โ17-09-2014 02:30 PM
Oh it's true enough, but there is no point in providing a link, there are no further details...........
on โ17-09-2014 02:37 PM
@this-one-time-at-bandcamp wrote:so nothing really happened? This is just an excuse for you lot to argue?
Maybe go start a group then, coz your fights make no sense
Oh, it happened, however, it is also an excuse for some individuals to make hostile comments, much as they do on the US boards.........
This is not the incident you referenced in the OP.
This is a completely different incident.
I feel like Alice In Wonderland!