Hinch makes some very good points.

[the_bob_delusion]

http://www.news.com.au/national/derryn-hinch-slams-celebrity-backed-bali-nine-mercy-campaign-video/s...

RADIO AND TV personality Derryn Hinch has criticised the decision made by Australian celebrities to call for mercy for Bali Nine masterminds Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan, saying their campaign is “hypocritical”.

“In Indonesia, they know that when they commit crimes like this, then you could get the death penalty.

“I say hypocritical because are these people who are up there who are saying ‘I stand for mercy’ — is that for Australian drug dealers or Australians on death row, or for everybody?”

“I mean did they stand up a week ago and say ‘I stand for mercy’ for the Brazilian who was executed in Indonesia, or the one from the Netherlands, or the Indonesian woman or somebody from Malawi? Or is it just Australians?,” he said.

He also questioned whether those celebrities involved in the video were against the death penalty in general, or if they were only against capital punishment for specific offences.

“Also if you are against the death penalty, are you against the death penalty for all offences?,” he asked.

“Are you against the death penalty say for the terrorists? Did you try and campaign to try and save the lives of the Bali Bombers?,” he said.

“Did we put our hands up and say show them clemency? Don’t execute them.”

He concluded with his view: “If you’re going to say ‘I stand for mercy’, stand for mercy for everybody, if you’re against the death penalty, be against it for everybody. you can’t be a little bit pregnant,” he added.

Kinda makes sense to me. 

[jean2579]

Every time I think of these two young men I can't help thinking of how many young people in this country would have been hurt by the garbage they would have brought into their own country.
How many other parents would have been crying for lost children?
Would each of those parents have received the same press coverage as the parents and families of these men have received?
I doubt it.

[k0llectable5]

I think there are huge differences between someone who is caught with marijuana as opposed to someone who is caught with Ice or heroin.  Because imo how can alcohol and cigarettes be legal yet marijuana is not? It is just a weed fgs. With a variety of medicinal purposes. I would definately stand for mercy for someone on death row who was caught wih marijuana before I would for someone who was trafickking heroin.  

Also if you are against the death penalty, are you against the death penalty for all offences?,” he asked.

My answer would have to be no to that question.  For example I dont believe in the death penalty for drug related offences but I do believe in it for other more vicious or depraved crimes.  Especially toward  those that show absolutely no mercy for their actions.  

I think it would be hard to kill someone who genuinely felt sorry for what they had done though.  (regardless of the crime) Like with the two boys from the Bali 9, their actions leading up to today seem to indicate that they have truly repented for their crimes and are trying to prove it by their behaviour.  If it was up to me they'd live.  Sometimes there has to be exceptions to the rules imo.

[polksaladallie]

Their "garbage" would have made no difference at all.  Drugs are as easy to buy as pizzas.  There are plenty here without their small contribution.

[grapes_collector]

I agree with bushies girl

[bushies.girl]

Great post Jean .... It's not as if they didnt know what they were doing or what the consquences were if they were caught

[lyne-flyn]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

Their "garbage" would have made no difference at all.  Drugs are as easy to buy as pizzas.  There are plenty here without their small contribution.

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I agree...whilst I feel sorry for parents who have lost children to drugs...each and everyone of those children took those drugs of their own free will.

[bushies.girl]

As did those now facing the death penalty .... No one made them do it

[the_bob_delusion]

I have a question. How does anyone know if these people have rehabilitate and will not reoffend again???

The stats on rehabilitation is pretty poor. Should we be more lenient on those with the best acting skills?

[polksaladallie]

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@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:

I have a question. How does anyone know if these people have rehabilitate and will not reoffend again???

The stats on rehabilitation is pretty poor. Should we be more lenient on those with the best acting skills?

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I will say what I have said in another thread.

If you think they are acting, who is bribing the universities?

It has been proven that they are reformed, and because of that there is still hope for their cases.

[k0llectable5]

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@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:

I have a question. How does anyone know if these people have rehabilitate and will not reoffend again???

The stats on rehabilitation is pretty poor. Should we be more lenient on those with the best acting skills?

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I guess thats assuming that people never learn from their mistakes.  I believe that some people will learn their lessons after something like this happens.  It shows in their actions and behaviour.  I'm not necessarily saying the the 2 boys from the Bali 9 should be released from prison, but if they are genuinely trying to help others and proving themselves via their behaviour and actions, that is how you know they are not acting.