on โ16-02-2020 09:06 AM
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on โ24-02-2020 08:41 AM
@davidc4430 wrote:running from a problem is nothing new, its built into our DNA
but as to hit and runs being on the increase well the world is changing
we now have places serving booze 24/7
so we have more drunks driving and more drunks stummbling home often in the roads.
I doubt this very much. Random breath tests have shown declining figures for drunk drivers for many years, but rising figures for drugged drivers. And even drugged drivers are getting "smarter" at avoiding detection. The drug tests only cover THC ( marijuana ) and amphetamines. There are plenty of drugs available that wont give a POS. result when roadside tested. These are becoming more popular amongst people who take drugs and then drive home.
how many times have read accident reports in the news about some idiot deciding to go for a nap on a road!
or just plain walking onto a road as a car passes and get 'clipped' possibly with the driver not even knowing.
ever case has a story.
cant just lump em all together and say drivers fault.
maybe its a subject that needs a study, how many were drunk drivers, how many were drunk padestrians'
you can make endless sub catagories.
its the ones who knowingly hit someone and drive away when they are completely ok to drive but just run to avoid facing up that i dont get.
we had a case in south australia a few years ago, a man driving a 4 wheel drive hits and kills a cyclist on a country road
The increase in popularity of cycling is almost certainly a factor in increased accidents in general. Many riders are responsible wearing high vis and keeping to the left, but unfortunately a lot are not very sensible about their own safety. They ride two or three abreast with wide spacings on country roads, regularly wear dark clothing, no lights on at dusk etc.
There are some winding, busy main, country roads with blind corners and narrow verges where it is crazy for cyclists to pit their chances against cars and trucks doing 100 kmh. Frankly they should not be allowed on some of these dangerous main thouroufares. But thats not politically correct is it ?
and drives off.
then we discover this driver is a high profile lawyer who knows the law very well and is comming from a luncheon where he consumes some booze, prolly enough to be over the limit.
he abscons the scene and hides long enough for the booze to be out of his system before fronting up to a police station and handing himself in.
text book defence by a very learned criminal.
he got off with a fine and a 'drive more carefully in future' warning.
the cyclist had a wife and very young children, do you think they felt justice was served?
on โ24-02-2020 09:34 AM
on โ24-02-2020 11:17 AM
@martinw-48 wrote:
We have to share the road
That can be a big problem when you have groups on early morning rides who then deliberately use the
roads you have to use and block you from passing on hills by riding 6 wide and blocking the entire road.
I used to do paper rounds in a car and one mob used to use other roads but changed to using roads I used
and then deliberately blocked me.
Never has a cyclist killed a motorist.
I've seen motorist swerve quickly and pull over on the sides off roads because cyclist have moved across in
front of them and if that was on a country road doing over 80 km then there is a good change that the cyclist
has killed a motorist through their stupidity.
I've encountered many cyclists when driving on very narrow winding roads in the Adelaide Hills when I lived in Adelaide.
It's up to motorists to drive safely and be prepared for anything that can be on the road especially in the country because it could be a cow or horse and they'll kill a motorist.
Same goes for a cyclist that if they travel on those roads they need to obey the laws and not act in a
dangerous manner that can get people killed.
I don't believe cyclists should be banned from any road but I don't understand why they'd ride on the road when a footpath is available and state law allows for them to use it.
I've seen people knocked to the ground because a bike rider that looked about 12 has just barged through
and hit them.
Also here you can't ride on the footpath unless under 13 with some exemptions as well but no adults unless
they have a medical exemptions or a training a child or have a basket with a child on the bike.
When I was in Adelaide last this moron was riding down the middle of Waterloo Corner road and weaving all over the place
Wouldn't be the first one to do that as there used to be a "few" that cross all over the place at the lights and
how they didn't get knocked of their bikes used to amaze me.
I used to travel through Salisbury to get to Gepps Cross for work and used to encounter quite a few cyclist
that seemed to have no clue about road rules and I've nearly hit a few for crossing in front of me and I was
on a motorbike.
It was annoying but I just had to reduce my speed and wait until my corner arrived to continue on my way.
His behaviour was inappropriate but it didn't justify my being inappropriate too
Yes motorist have to be careful but the cyclists also have to obey the road rules and in my case I've seen quite
a few that completely ignore them and some take pride in doing so.
on โ24-02-2020 11:39 AM
on โ24-02-2020 12:24 PM
growing up i rode my bike far and wide, never even comming close to being hit by a car
different times hey
now days you wouldnt get me on a bike on a road with cars for love or money.
i think helmets have a an effect too but not in a good way.
cyclists seem to think wearing a helmet protects them from getting run over, it doesnt.
im not even sure it does a lot to save ya head.
on โ24-02-2020 04:34 PM