on 26-01-2013 09:04 AM
We still have a flag that confuses the world - to the world our flag says we are still an English colony. So why oh why is it so hard to get Australians to change the thing?
After having had the misfortune of living in the midst of the Cronulla riots some years ago, I have come to hate what our flag now symbolises to many (that we are a white nation with anglo saxon ties) and would dearly love to see it changed.
I read Peter Fitz.s article this morning and couldn't agree more. Your thoughts?
I AM, you are, we are, Australian.
So why on earth, in the 21st century, do we still have a flag that reserves 25 per cent of its acreage proclaiming our allegiance, first and foremost, to Great Britain!?
Settle, Professor Flint, settle! You too, Jonesy. Settle, petals, I say! Whatever fatigue the conservative forces might feel at this subject flaring up ever more often, there is no way around it. Having a flag that declares to the world that we are Britain in the South Seas, a living relic of our colonial past, is as ludicrous as it is embarrassing.
Typically, Paul Keating said it best just over a year ago, when he noted: "We get around with the British flag in the corner of our flag. Great states do not do these things."
Who, seriously, can argue? (Apart from you, I mean, Professor and Jonesy.)
Against this most basic and obvious of assertions, a range of old chestnuts are thrown.
It is unpatriotic to speak out against the flag. Really? We want an Australian flag to feature uniquely Australian symbols, as opposed to the flag of another nation, and we're the unpatriotic ones?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. It is bloody well broke. These days, the ostentatious display of the Australian flag outside a house, on bumper-stickers or the like, is more often a statement of political conservatism than patriotism pure. The Australian flag is no longer a symbol that unites us - it divides us.
It's our history. Really? Or is it just your history, as in your Anglo history? The fact that the Brits had a large part in forming Australia as it was in 1901 is reflected in the flag that was chosen then. But where in the flag is the representation of our now recognised indigenous citizens, or of the wave after wave of postwar immigrants, come from all parts of the world who have also since built the nation?
You can't believe in multiculturalism and support a flag that asserts the primacy of the Anglo race. We need a flag that reflects the equality of our citizens, not vaunts one lot over other.
Our forefathers and mothers served and died in wars under this flag, and so it can't be changed. This is the greatest chestnut of them all, and simply wrong. In the first place, in all the military books I have read, and written, I have never come across an "Iwo Jima" moment where our troops raced up a hill, or the like, to plant an Australian flag, let alone actually defended one to the death. That stuff is great for American movies, but not actually the way our wars were fought. They fought for Australia - and I honour them for it - but not specifically the flag. Besides which, the current blue ensign was only adopted at the insistence of Robert Menzies in 1954, to replace the red ensign which had broadly been our flag since 1901.
All up, is it really such a terrible thing to want an Australian flag to boast uniquely Australian symbols? For me, the answer is Eureka, but anything that does not have the flag of another nation upon it would be better than the one we have now.
Where will it all end, you ask? How about standing proudly on our own two feet, with a flag and a system of government entirely uncluttered by embarrassing proclamations of piety to another nation …
on 26-01-2013 04:04 PM
If it's no longer relevant, why NOT fix it? 🙂
Generally, our links with Britain are not what they were ... nothing against the Brits, I was born in London and lived there for my first 20 years ... my father was Welsh. But, most of the previous colonies are now pretty independent and their flags reflect that.
Who's looking forward to the reign of Prince Charles and Camilla?
on 26-01-2013 04:16 PM
Some changes are good.
on 26-01-2013 04:16 PM
Who's looking forward to the reign of Prince Charles and Camilla?
* Shudder *
on 26-01-2013 05:03 PM
Absolutely *Shudder*, Martini!!!!
I don't think I'll ever be able to think about him as other than the Tampon Prince :_|
The upside of that is that I'm sure many more Australians will be more receptive to the idea of a republic.
Maybe, it's best to wait until the reign of King Charles (OMG) and do everything together ... new flag, changes to the Constitution including recognition of the Aboriginal peoples, changing the GG role to something like a president ... severing our ties to the UK. I wouldn't mind remaining a member of the Commonwealth, though. Just for the Games 🙂
on 26-01-2013 09:35 PM
we should have a completely new flag. imo people didn't die for the flag they died for freedom. the flag has bad connotations for a number of reasons. the union jack is no longer relevant and the southern cross has been appropriated and used for tattoos and stickers for red necks. we need a new flag for a new start for Australia free of past atrocities and inclusive of all Australians.
on 26-01-2013 09:43 PM
you don't think the red necks will use a new flag image the same way?
on 26-01-2013 09:44 PM
The Aussie flag and the Aboriginal flag flew side by side in Sydney today, I saw.
on 26-01-2013 09:46 PM
Talking about moving on... Prince Charles and Camilla have been accepted as a Royal couple, by the public of England, something that was predicted never to happen..
on 26-01-2013 09:47 PM
you don't think the red necks will use a new flag image the same way?
Not if we choose the flag wisely. I suspect that those idiots will continue to tattoo the southern cross on themsleves regardless of whatever symbols we have on the new flag.
Particularly if that flag embraces our indigenous history and our multiculturalism.
on 27-01-2013 09:54 AM
I once embraced the idea of combining the Aboriginal flag with the Southern Cross, however, I feel more now that the Black/Gold/Red one represents a single race rather than a nation as such.