on 07-10-2013 08:49 PM
After being away several months, I notice many of the same faces are still spending all day posting, despite their assurances that they work. One even spent a whole day waiting until 5.30 pm before posting just to prove she is employed!!! (only people unemployed or on benefits for years would assume the average work day is still from Nine-to-Five LOL!)
My question is, how do you afford to be here so much? Do you live off savings, an inheritance, divorce settlement, or do you simply chat from a library or a second hand notebook on limited internet usage?
To get a decent computer costs at least $2000 and without good internet connection, chatting on a forum isn't even worth it, so are these regulars going into debt over the boards? Would a bank even loan or credit them enough to supplement their activites and time usage here?
It's all very puzzling...
on 11-10-2013 08:13 AM
@crikey*mate wrote:dunno John, I took the photos with my iPhone and loaded them up - that's just how they turned out.
How?
http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Please-ignore/m-p/740519#U740519
on 11-10-2013 11:26 AM
on 11-10-2013 11:33 AM
on 11-10-2013 12:18 PM
@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
You are a cruel and heartless person am3. 😛
I thought Clair wrote that when I first read it.
Sorry to shatter your illusions about the O telecom. I still have my mobile with them and they give me some discounts occasionally for being a long time customer, so they aren't all bad.
on 11-10-2013 02:46 PM
@poddster wrote:I did nothing of the sort.
Perhaps reading what I did say might be a good idea.
No doubt that most people make their own decisions as they should, providing that those decisions are made on facts and not on hyperbole.
Based on your FACTS Poddy, most people don't actually NEED a computer, let alone the internet.
Our WA Government is refusing to build an extra storey onto our new children's hospital currently under construction on the grounds that we don't NEED it at the moment; even though the AMA and pretty much everyone who works in children's health is telling him that we will NEED it in the not to distant future - at which time it will be far more difficult and expensive to to build as an add-on.
(BTW this is another of those pesky ANALOGIES that you seem to have so much trouble with.)
on 11-10-2013 02:53 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@poddster wrote:I did nothing of the sort.
Perhaps reading what I did say might be a good idea.
No doubt that most people make their own decisions as they should, providing that those decisions are made on facts and not on hyperbole.
Based on your FACTS Poddy, most people don't actually NEED a computer, let alone the internet.
Our WA Government is refusing to build an extra storey onto our new children's hospital currently under construction on the grounds that we don't NEED it at the moment; even though the AMA and pretty much everyone who works in children's health is telling him that we will NEED it in the not to distant future - at which time it will be far more difficult and expensive to to build as an add-on.
(BTW this is another of those pesky ANALOGIES that you seem to have so much trouble with.)
maybe the WA govt can't afford any more than is neccessary at the moment.
It's the same thing when cube rolls go on special for $8.99 kg. Now I know I can use a lot of them quite easily, so even though I know that it is very cost efficient for me to buy heaps now in preparation for later, I only buy as many as my budget will currently allow that suits my purposes for the short term.
on 11-10-2013 03:01 PM
4. Yes I do know what Chanel No 5 smells like but prefer Madame Rochas or Caleche (by Hermes)
Bump, I adore Caleche.
Many years ago (30 to be precise) I won a trip to London - business class with Cathey pacific - in a poetry competition. They upgraded us to first class for the Perth/Hongkon leg each way and we received Caleche perfume and hand lotion in our complimentary toilet bags. I fell in love with it and vowed never to use anythig else, but I could only afford it when I could get t it duty free - and now I have been told they are no longer making it.
on 11-10-2013 03:02 PM
maybe the WA govt can't afford any more than is neccessary at the moment.
Of course they can't. they've spent it all on a new football stadium.
on 11-10-2013 03:08 PM
Haven't you ever played Sim City. She ele?
Ya have to distribute the ammenities througout your city in order for it to grow.
With no places for people to go and do things, crime grows and people get unhappy. then they move away from the city.
might be the same sort of principle around the football stadium.
Least it will get used right away and not left vacant until some time in the future when it might be needed.
on 11-10-2013 03:21 PM
@crikey*mate wrote:Haven't you ever played Sim City. She ele?
Ya have to distribute the ammenities througout your city in order for it to grow.
With no places for people to go and do things, crime grows and people get unhappy. then they move away from the city.
might be the same sort of principle around the football stadium.
Least it will get used right away and not left vacant until some time in the future when it might be needed.
No Crikey, it's the 'Give them bread and circuses' game, and the 'Who cares. I won't be around when the bleep hits the fan' game.
Where are the competition models?
It’s easy to shout ‘competition’ from a great political or academic height, but it’s much more difficult to give it a serious commercial foundation. Perhaps this is why those advocating this level of competition do not come up with ideas or suggestions to show how it could work.
If we follow an open infrastructure competition policy we will have to find another solution for the other 50 per cent of the population – assuming that both Professor Hilmer and Minister Turnbull agree that broadband access has to be a universal service.
In the future more essential services such as healthcare, education, government services, smart energy services and business services will be delivered over that infrastructure, with the assistance of cloud computing, M2M and Big Data, to everybody in the country – this cannot just be given to the 50 per cent who will be serviced by the commercial models.
Furthermore they will have to come up with good reasons for investors to invest – beyond cherry-picking – in competing fixed line infrastructure, as current HFC and copper infrastructure will all eventually end up in vanilla fibre networks, with no economically-viable business model for two or more of those competing FttP networks.
So far there are no investors chasing investment models based on a level of infrastructure competition such as this.
In all reality the final outcome of fixed line telecoms will be FttP, and that will be a utility – be it in five, 10 or 20 years. Investors base their fixed infrastructure plans on 20- to 30-year investment cycles and will therefore be wary of these developments, as they can very easily ruin their investment.
Competition policy should be focused on the services, not the infrastructure
But to those advocating competition, the real value – rather than the political or dogmatic value – is that for those using it the infrastructure itself is not important. They are interested in the services that are delivered over it, and this is where competition policies should be focused.
Now, it can be argued that infrastructure development can be done differently – not through cross-subsidies. I have no issue with that but if community leaders argue for infrastructure-based competition they will, at the same time, have to indicate:
So far – as with all other infrastructure in this country, whether electricity, water, roads, hospitals or schools – we use cross-subsidy models to provide a universal service.
It's easy to argue for infrastructure-based competition, but it is not as easy to turn that into a social economic policy. Ignoring the other half of the country where this level of infrastructure competition will not work without addressing the perilous investment issues that are involved in such a competition model.
This is an edited version of a post originally published on October 8. Paul Budde is the managing director of BuddeComm, an independent telecommunications research and consultancy company, which includes 45 national and international researchers in 15 countries.