on 13-07-2013 05:40 PM
on 14-07-2013 11:44 AM
@poddster wrote:Ditch the UN Refugee Convention
by:Adrienne Millbank
From:The Australian
May 03, 201312:00AM
ONCE again Australia's offshore (Nauru and Manus Island) and onshore processing centres are swamped and we are confronted with images of distressed asylum-seekers self-harming, lip-sewing and hunger-striking. Such images are jarring and confusing in a country of migration where new arrivals are supposed to be welcomed as equals.
Australia's border protection efforts and their appalling effects do not reflect a country that has turned its back on migrants and refugees; they reflect an asylum system that is crumbling under its own outrageous costs and contradictions. The problem with the 1951 UN Convention relating to the Status of Refugees is that it legitimises unregulated entry. And unregulated inflows of economic migrants and asylum-seekers are anathema to managed migration and refugee resettlement.
Australia may be approaching a tipping point in its always uneasy relationship with the refugee convention. The Howard-era border protection policies, reinstated by the Labor government in desperation after it had abolished them, are not working. Nor are measures recommended by the hastily convened expert panel to which the Prime Minister, in even greater desperation, abrogated responsibility. Indeed, the expansion of the humanitarian program to 20,000 places is encouraging more asylum-seekers.
Last year, more than 17,000 asylum-seekers arrived. More than 30,000 are projected for this year. Our offshore humanitarian migration program has been overwhelmed. This is not good for the 70,000 to 90,000 refugees the UN High Commissioner for Refugees identifies each year as most in need of third-country resettlement. As former immigration minister Chris Bowen pointed out, Australia, the US and Canada are the only significant resettlement countries.Without us, there is no hope. At least 1000 people have drowned at sea.
This is not the legacy Labor intended when it came to office in 2007. It wanted to cement a reputation as more compassionate than the Howard government. When it unwound deterrence measures built up across 20 years, it never intended to welcome larger numbers of asylum-seekers. The boats had stopped coming and, hoping to keep things that way, Labor increased expenditure on border protection to record levels. It miscalculated.
Using the refugee convention to score political points was ill-advised. The domestic politics of asylum are toxic and divisive. Advocates think voters need to be better educated about signatory states' obligations. A growing number of voters think the refugee convention is past its use-by date. Australians see how European countries struggle to integrate large, unplanned inflows of economic migrants and refugees. Familiar with managed humanitarian migration, they see how the refugee convention advantages people on the basis of their capacity to pay, and to play the system, over refugees in greater need.
Australian voters also see the commonwealth budget has blown out by billions of dollars, trying to keep boatpeople out, rescuing, detaining and processing those who manage to get in. They think better things could be done with this money: improved disability services for Australian residents, perhaps, as well as helping more needy refugees.
The credibility of the Labor government is destroyed, and a clear majority favour the Coalition on this issue. The opposition, however, offers only a return to measures that seem less likely to succeed the second time around and with larger numbers. It offers the depressing prospect of a lengthy, gruelling period of escalating toughness. Temporary protection visas are a weak deterrent. Not all boats will be turned around. And even if offshore processing does slow boat arrivals, transporting asylum-seekers to impoverished islands and caring for them at immense cost before, in all probability, issuing them with resident visas is ridiculous.
The legacy of the Rudd and Gillard policy failures could be that it is no longer possible to return to the halfway solutions that worked in the past. The costs of pretending to uphold obligations under the refugee convention, at least in the way they presently are interpreted, have become too high.
As a country of migration, Australia needs its refugee policy to be sensible, morally defensible and well regulated.
We may have reached the point where the country's legal obligations need to be brought into line with public expectations that the government will control the borders and that migration will be managed. It is time to rethink dubious international obligations and to argue Australia's case.
Australia should require asylum-seekers wanting to settle in this country to apply for a refugee or humanitarian visa offshore, through our overseas posts or the UNHCR.
Adrienne Millbank, a researcher at Monash University.
we need to be rid of
:Adrienne Millbank and the like
on 14-07-2013 12:14 PM
LL I do wish you hadn't repeated the nasty murdoch C&P proddster posted. It was bad enough the first time.
on 14-07-2013 12:16 PM
sorry.
on 14-07-2013 12:26 PM
@splitpin1 wrote:Wouldn't genuine refugees - fleeing from persecution or war torn countries & have no safe home - understand that they would have to stay in a dentention camp until they were cleared for entry into Australia ??
IF they had come from such horrible situations - surely they would be satisied with having a roof over their heads, themselves safe & fed daily ??
Do you understand how long a refugee might be in a camp (or a few camps as they get shuffled around a lot) for? We are talking decades. So another 5 years in a detention camp here in comparison to another 10-15 years in the various other camps arouind the world is chickenfeed.
And I suspect that no, they do not realise that they are going to spend so long trapped like this. In the same way I suspect that they had no idea that were going to lose everything they ever owned, the only life they have ever known and family members when they had to flee.
on 14-07-2013 12:44 PM
So how many of you bleeding hearts and tsk tsk tsk'ers would put these people up in your home.
How many have you put up?
HHMMMM let me see...... thats right ... NONE
on 14-07-2013 12:56 PM
no need to yell desperado
on 14-07-2013 01:29 PM
I venture to say that most posters on this forum and indeed most citizens do not have even have an iota of an idea on the subject of refugees and seekers of political asylum.
I also venture to say that the throng entering this country on unseaworthy vessels are neither true refugees or seekers of political asylum.
A true refugee would no way have the cost of the passage being charged by the smugglers.
on 14-07-2013 01:41 PM
doesn't seem to be much debate, more agreement.. like minds etc.
on 14-07-2013 01:43 PM
@nero_wulf wrote:watch out poddy you are being stalked it would seem Just remember he has a long disgrasful record of stalking people on these forums and spends a huge amount of time trying to dig up dirt and use. He does usually stalk women though.... just look at the stalking of cat a few weeks back.
Watch your back poddy as this one is not stable and is rather dangerous....
'disgraceful' nothing wrong with knowing your way around, beats making things up.
14-07-2013 04:40 PM - edited 14-07-2013 04:40 PM
Oile are old adversaries and most of what he comes up with is that yellow fluid in the wind.
If it makes him feel good and if it takes the heat off someone else then I really don't mind.
He knows that I have had him pegged and catalogued years ago.
Besides there is no dirt to be had from my end, many have tried and failed and besides it gives him a hobby