How do you un-brainwash someone that's been indoctrinated?

[the_bob_delusion]

How?

[Anonymous]

lol

i dont think there is anyone here that cares so 

much about what other people believe as bob 

does.  not enough to try to convince anyone anyway.

[Anonymous]

where do you find all these christians?

[the_bob_delusion]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

lol

i dont think there is anyone here that cares so 

much about what other people believe as bob 

does.  not enough to try to convince anyone anyway.

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I think you'd be surprise how many people  here do care. Just think about if the topic of gay marriage, abortion or ISIS have come up. 

[Anonymous]

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

lol

i dont think there is anyone here that cares so 

much about what other people believe as bob 

does.  not enough to try to convince anyone anyway.

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I think you'd be surprise how many people  here do care. Just think about if the topic of gay marriage, abortion or ISIS have come up. 

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i'm talking about actually, seriously, attempting

to convert someone.  not simply discussing other

beliefs.  that is what you want to do, isnt it?  to convert

people to your way of thinking?  asking how to do it?

[the_bob_delusion]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

lol

i dont think there is anyone here that cares so 

much about what other people believe as bob 

does.  not enough to try to convince anyone anyway.

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I think you'd be surprise how many people  here do care. Just think about if the topic of gay marriage, abortion or ISIS have come up. 

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i'm talking about actually, seriously, attempting

to convert someone.  not simply discussing other

beliefs.  that is what you want to do, isnt it?  to convert

people to your way of thinking?  asking how to do it?

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Are you saying educating, using reason and logic is a form of conversion? If so, I am guilty of getting people to use reason and logic then. 

[Anonymous]

no i'm not saying that at all.

(no offence)

[poddster]

Bob there are many times that your logic is flawed, I believe that it is so because you want it to be.

In a lot of cases you use the 'Dead Skunk" in the school yard principle, you invite people to kick the "Dead Skunk" around while you observe. Neat trick, gather information without giving anything away 🙂

I doubt if anyone knows what your beliefs are, perhaps you don't quite know yourself and your beliefs are still in the formative stage 🙂

[***super_nova***]

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

I ask Christians why they think People convert to Islam. They'll answer they've been brainwashed or lied to. So they can see it in others. 

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But who knows who is right?  The fundamental fact of brainwashing is that the brainwashed person does know they are brainwashed.  Some Muslims think we are all brainwashed by the media propaganda, and ISIS is just trying to create Islamic paradise on earth.  Maybe we are, maybe all the atrocities shown on TV supposedly committed by ISIS are staged by CIA & mossad to turn the world against the Arab countries.  Or as some claim ISIS was created by Mossad:  http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.624626

How can you be sure they are not? 

By the way has anybody seen the ISIS doctor recruiting ad ?

[Anonymous]

Maybe we are, maybe all the atrocities shown on TV supposedly committed by ISIS are staged by CIA & mossad to turn the world against the Arab countries. 

and isis is more than happy to claim 

responsibility.  

you didnt think that one through very well

did you  

[the_bob_delusion]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

I ask Christians why they think People convert to Islam. They'll answer they've been brainwashed or lied to. So they can see it in others. 

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But who knows who is right?  The fundamental fact of brainwashing is that the brainwashed person does know they are brainwashed.  Some Muslims think we are all brainwashed by the media propaganda, and ISIS is just trying to create Islamic paradise on earth.  Maybe we are, maybe all the atrocities shown on TV supposedly committed by ISIS are staged by CIA & mossad to turn the world against the Arab countries.  Or as some claim ISIS was created by Mossad:  http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.624626

How can you be sure they are not? 

By the way has anybody seen the ISIS doctor recruiting ad ?

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Good question. How do we know if something is right? I agree there's no way of knowing absolute truth. However we can establish what's most likely true for our reality.