How trends change in regards to unpopular people in Australia

[donnashuggy]

I had breakfast with an Indian Jew this morning who came here in the seventies, we were discussing how it was then and how much it has changed, we both tended to agree that Muslims wherever they come from and Arabs in general are not so accepted in society as everyone else.

I remember it being the Greeks and Italians in those days.

We do live in a multicultural society and although I am a Catholic and she is Jewish we both have Muslim friends. My daughter goes to a state school where half of the kids are probably Jewish (I am guessing at that) her children go to a Jewish school but often cover the badge of their uniform when going to suburbs where there are lots of Muslim kids. Neither of us is racist but we both recognise one thing, that society changes to accept or not accept people and it isn't right.

Could it be the newspapers people read?

[nevynreally]

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@village_person wrote:

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And what an outstanding success multiculturalism is if kids have to cover the badge of their uniform.

I am allergic to muslims and to compound that problem my religion says I am not to mix with them or take them as friends.

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Well, that's a loss in  your life you'll have to just deal with.

Fortunately, I don't.

[iapetus_rocks]

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@am*3 wrote:

I would like to know what parents tell their children - what their reasons are when they decide not to buy food items such as Vegemite, because it is Halal certified. And how that answer influences their children re religious tolerance etc.

What I am getting at is - are children influenced by their parents on race/religion/culture?

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Well of course children are influenced by what their parents teach them about religion because, all too often, the parents teach their kids one particular religion as if it were the absolute and unmitigated Truth.

The parents are propaganda agents for their religion and the poor little children, being trusting, believe their parents. It's nothing less than cruelty to innocent little kids to teach them this way.

[simone4010]

Donna

Whilst I appreciate the point you are making, I’m rather surprised by how you have chosen to express it. To describe your breakfast companion as simply ‘an Indian Jew’ is almost contradictory to the message you are trying to present. When you describe a person by a single term, you reduce them to a one-dimensional object of the person they really are which to a certain extent, diminishes them.

Personally, I believe that whilst we continue to identify people purely in terms of race, colour, sex, age or religion rather than their lovely qualities, knowledge and attributes, we are only causing more division rather than acceptance and inclusion.

[grandmoon]

When my children were little their father had a good friend who was Indian. 

One day while my 4 year old was play in the yard with this friend, the 4 year from next door started to yell " your playing with a black man " my son replied " He not a blackman is only Uncle Kris"

[donnashuggy]

Should I have said she was an Anglo Saxon religious fanatic simone? Where she comes from an when is relevant to the topic, she is also a doctor however I didn't feel that was related

[icyfroth]

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@simone4010 wrote:

Donna

Whilst I appreciate the point you are making, I’m rather surprised by how you have chosen to express it. To describe your breakfast companion as simply ‘an Indian Jew’ is almost contradictory to the message you are trying to present. When you describe a person by a single term, you reduce them to a one-dimensional object of the person they really are which to a certain extent, diminishes them.

Personally, I believe that whilst we continue to identify people purely in terms of race, colour, sex, age or religion rather than their lovely qualities, knowledge and attributes, we are only causing more division rather than acceptance and inclusion.

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Personally, I think not to acknowledge a person's race or creed is to efface them.

If a person is black, what's wrong with saying so? It's a form of racism to pretend you didn't notice.

[gleee58]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@simone4010 wrote:

Donna

Whilst I appreciate the point you are making, I’m rather surprised by how you have chosen to express it. To describe your breakfast companion as simply ‘an Indian Jew’ is almost contradictory to the message you are trying to present. When you describe a person by a single term, you reduce them to a one-dimensional object of the person they really are which to a certain extent, diminishes them.

Personally, I believe that whilst we continue to identify people purely in terms of race, colour, sex, age or religion rather than their lovely qualities, knowledge and attributes, we are only causing more division rather than acceptance and inclusion.

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Personally, I think not to acknowledge a person's race or creed is to efface them.

If a person is black, what's wrong with saying so? It's a form of racism to pretend you didn't notice.

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Why? We don't acknowledge the white in white people.  

[donnashuggy]

Tomorrow I am going breakfast with an Australian without citizenship

[donnashuggy]

He was born here though lol

[cherry*135]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

I would like to know what parents tell their children - what their reasons are when they decide not to buy food items such as Vegemite, because it is Halal certified. And how that answer influences their children re religious tolerance etc.

What I am getting at is - are children influenced by their parents on race/religion/culture?

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Well of course children are influenced by what their parents teach them about religion because, all too often, the parents teach their kids one particular religion as if it were the absolute and unmitigated Truth.

The parents are propaganda agents for their religion and the poor little children, being trusting, believe their parents. It's nothing less than cruelty to innocent little kids to teach them this way.

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Yes, I see your point.

I was mainly thinking of parents that don't have a/or practice a religion of their own. These parents without religion in their lives, can still influence their children - intolerance, bigotry etc.. about other people's religion.