I find it obscene that 85 people own almost half of the worlds wealth.

No wonder I like the idea of socialism that is disgusting, especially when Abbott is now going to see what he can pry from aged pensioners.

 

The other 50% of people deserve a share in this wealth they helped earn it for the 85 people.

 

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I find it obscene that 85 people own almost half of the worlds wealth.

For those who thing it ok to asset strip pensioner, here are some facts you may want to consider.

 

The aged pension is already means tested.  For instance if memory serves, if a pensioners’ personal assets exceed $250,000 then this has a downward effect on the pension.  The same goes if the value of the family home exceeds a specific amount, but I’m not sure of the amount.  However I would think a Sydney waterfront property would fall within that category.

 

Also the historical circumstances which gave rise to the aged pension in the first place needs to be considered.  Ever since I could remember Australians have paid one of the highest rates of personal income tax in the world, and until recently, every time politicians were challenged as to the rate, the answer, irrespective of the party in Government at the time was the same.  You are paying for your future benefits, one of which is, when you are too old to work, you will be, subject to a means test, entitled to the aged pension.

 

Finally and most importantly of all, when you talk baby boomers you are taking about the 100 percenters.  That is, this is the group that not only pay some of the highest rates of income tax in the world whilst earning, but also, whilst earning, received no social benefits in return. That is no paid maternity leave, no carer’s payments, no baby bonus, no family payments schedule A or B, no subsidised child care etc. 

 

Therefore to now simply get this group to accept reduced benefits, whilst maintaining the current crop of benefits which they did not receive would amount to the worst breach of trust in Australian political history

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I find it obscene that 85 people own almost half of the worlds wealth.

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What are they trying to pry from Pensioners?

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I find it obscene that 85 people own almost half of the worlds wealth.

Capitalism, what are you going to do to change it?

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

What are they trying to pry from Pensioners?


They are considering changes to the welfare system, but I do not think it includes the age pensions, in this moment.  🙂

Somebody ought to explain TA that creating even deeper poverty does not help the economy.

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I find it obscene that 85 people own almost half of the worlds wealth.


@margomeoz wrote:

No wonder I like the idea of socialism that is disgusting, especially when Abbott is now going to see what he can pry from aged pensioners.

 

The other 50% of people deserve a share in this wealth they helped earn it for the 85 people.

 


they do get a share in the wealth.

 

presumedly they employ a fair few people, inject a lot of money into the economy from personal spending, and pay a fair bit in taxes etc as well.

 

sure, thwart their desire to make money and see what happens, when those who don't have the ability to own and operate businesses etc are left to sustain the economy.

 

and what does global wealth have to do with Mr Abbott and policies in Australia?

 

You're going to blame him cos someone he's probably never even met, is wealthy?


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@lyndal1838 wrote:

What are they trying to pry from Pensioners?


Nothing.  Smiley Happy

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I find it obscene that 85 people own almost half of the worlds wealth.

Tones master's are those that own most of Australia's wealth and he and his government will do all they can to make sure that this stays just the way they like it. 

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One in four Australian households on welfare

Australia becomes a welfare nation

With annual welfare costs at $119 billion, Australian taxpayers now pay more for welfare than health care. Source: Supplied

ONE in every four households survives on social security payments, with Australian taxpayers now forking out more for welfare than health care.

Annual welfare costs have grown to a staggering $119 billion - or $1300 for every man, woman and child, a new federal government report reveals.

Taxpayers now spend a third more on welfare than on health care.

The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare yesterday released its two-yearly report card, revealing welfare spending grew 3.1 per cent faster than inflation each year, on average, during the decade to 2010/11.

The disabled and elderly have received much bigger increases than families with children.

Spending on welfare for families rose 0.7 per cent faster than inflation, while payments to the elderly grew 3.3 per cent and spending on the disabled grew 6.6 per cent, on average, during the decade.

Spending soared during the global financial crisis (GFC), with welfare payments soaking up 34.5 per cent of government revenues in 2010/11, compared to 29.3 per cent in 2007/09.

Twenty-six years ago, former Labor prime minister Bob Hawke proclaimed that by 1990 no Australian child would live in poverty.

But the latest welfare data shows that poverty afflicts 13 per cent of the population, with no one working in 11.6 per cent of families.

About one in eight Australians lives in poverty - defined as an income of less than $20,000 a year - including one in five single parents.

And the dropout rate for young Australians has not budged despite a decade of intervention to make them "earn or learn''.

One in 14 teenagers and one in eight Gen Ys aged 20 to 24 are neither working nor studying.

The number of abused and neglected children has grown 18 per cent between 2007/08 and 2011/12 - based on confirmed cases - with a 27 per cent jump in the number of kids in foster care.

And more than one in every 200 Australians is homeless.

Australian Council of Social Service chief executive Cassandra Goldie yesterday said the next federal government needed to spend more money on wage subsidies to get the long-term jobless back to work, rather than simply paying unemployment benefits.

And the jobless needed more "targeted training'' to find work, she said, instead of "training just to keep them busy''.

Dr Goldie said much of the welfare spending rise was linked to Australia's ageing population and reliance on the aged pension.

"Since the GFC there's been significant increase in people who are long-term unemployed and serious growth in long-term unemployment,'' she said.

"There is an ongoing reluctance for employers to be taking people on without experience.''

Ms Goldie said a third of Australia's unemployed were older than 45, and the unemployment benefit of $35 a day left people living in "destitution''.

"We have one in six children living in poverty and it's on the rise,'' she said.

"There's no point pushing major investment in education if we're not looking at the social situation these children are placed in.''

The AIHW report adds up spending by federal, state, territory and local governments on social security payments and welfare services.

Cash payments - such as the aged pension, dole, disability pensions and family tax benefits - made up 75 per cent of welfare spending.

The report shows the welfare nation is generating jobs - the community services workforce grew by 24 per cent between 2006 and 2011.

Despite the huge cost of welfare, Labor said it was proud of its record supporting struggling Australians - while the Coalition declared a job was the best form of welfare.

Families Minister Jenny Macklin said Labor had worked hard to better target family payments, reform the disability pension and increase the aged pension, which is the biggest single area of welfare spending.

The Opposition spokesman on families, housing and human services, Kevin Andrews, said a Coalition government would grow the economy to "reduce people's reliance on welfare and encourage them to seek employment''.

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I find it obscene that 85 people own almost half of the worlds wealth.

Your kidding they pay less taxes than the average garbage man.

 

The are in Switzerland now with Tone to try and get more than they have already.

 

They need to employ heaps of people because they would have no wealth without their workers.

 

And meep aged pensions are in the sights of the government at the moment.

 

There is going to be a major welfare overhall they are reviewing the aged pension that is disgusting.

 

The babyboomers most of them did not even get to start super till late in life.

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I find it obscene that 85 people own almost half of the worlds wealth.

Crikey, this is what bothered me about comments from the super-rich during the GFC in the U.S.

 

they reduced their spending on luxury goods, travel, and other forms of conspicuous consumption not to appear obscene, and made a point of talking about that...a Johnson heir for one, a Kennedy...

 

all they were doing was putting people out of work by cutting money out of retail and hospitality in an effort to appear ordinary folk.


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