If one place is mass infected , stands to reason....

[rogespeed]

Latest mass outbreak of coronavirus is at an abattoir 

 https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/melbourne/coronavirus-cases-in-victoria-climb-by-22-including-19-more...

Now if there is at this time a mass infection of a new venue , stands to reason that similar venues will be likewise suffer infection of it's workers or if not should be placed under intense ongoing anti-pathogen monitoring

(Also meat growers - any concentration of mammals with ACE2 protein , handled in clammy high stress  enclosed conditions ie porcine animal farms, grain fed shed cattle etc )

To encourage enthusiastic co-operation - maybe helpful to make clear in the event of an unfortunate contagion available financial worker and company support will be quickly accessable. 

[rogespeed]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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re " Maybe all workplaces in the most affected states need to do something similar-temp taken as you arrive."

Would be a good permanent standard procedure , so as to detect servere seasonal flu and bad common cold as well , sometimes people just plod on not realising how serious their condition is, until they just do not get out of bed one morning - in the mean time they are spreading the infection which means even more lost productivity and maybe lost workers  

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The problem is that people are infectious before they show any signs of illness, some never show any signs.  Taking temperature is a good idea but not foolproof way to stop infections.

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Better than the current system of snitching - but seriously hopefully a real-time severe respiratory detector will be developed , and so reduce winter season lost production and reduce hospital time and maybe even reduce deaths

By-demand market place - set the wheels in motion 

[*kazumi*]

But some infected and infectious people do not have "severe respiratory infection"; they are asymptomatic!  That is the whole problem.  The available tests do detect these people. 

What "current system of snitching"?  But, yes, sick people should be reuired to stay at home; for that you need unlimited sick pay (with medical cert.).

[rogespeed]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

But some infected and infectious people do not have "severe respiratory infection"; they are asymptomatic!  That is the whole problem.  The available tests do detect these people. 

What "current system of snitching"?  But, yes, sick people should be reuired to stay at home; for that you need unlimited sick pay (with medical cert.).

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not currently there is a real-time test but if dogs can be trained to sniff out covid carriers then a detector can be designed 

https://www.complex.com/life/2020/05/dogs-being-trained-to-detect-if-you-have-coronavirus

or we just employ sniffer dogs 

[springyzone]

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Would be a good permanent standard procedure , so as to detect servere seasonal flu and bad common cold as well , sometimes people just plod on not realising how serious their condition is, until they just do not get out of bed one morning - in the mean time they are spreading the infection which means even more lost productivity and maybe lost workers  

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I think a big part of our culture has been the feeling that people should 'soldier on'. Remember that ad? Medication not to fix but to relieve symptoms so people with colds & flu can get up and go to work. Now we are asking people to do the opposite, to stay home at the slightest sign of anything.

And back in the past (last year) people who were home from work sick thought nothing of going to the shops.

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@springyzone wrote:

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Would be a good permanent standard procedure , so as to detect servere seasonal flu and bad common cold as well , sometimes people just plod on not realising how serious their condition is, until they just do not get out of bed one morning - in the mean time they are spreading the infection which means even more lost productivity and maybe lost workers  

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I think a big part of our culture has been the feeling that people should 'soldier on'. Remember that ad? Medication not to fix but to relieve symptoms so people with colds & flu can get up and go to work. Now we are asking people to do the opposite, to stay home at the slightest sign of anything.

And back in the past (last year) people who were home from work sick thought nothing of going to the shops.

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I agree but if the powers of influence can assess, learn and impliment mitigation solutions to various environments within society without significatly impacting upon vested interests then we have a chance to permanently benefit despite this unfolding calamity