on 30-03-2018 09:16 AM
I know of people who choose euthanasia rather than be faced with a life time of costs for, say, diabetes treatment. And these are people who could easily afford it.
I also have read of where people have gone into debt to save a pet.
Me, i would pay what i could afford as i love my pets like children.
Someone asked earlier if would work in a massage parlour to pay such a bill and the sad answer is i,m not 16 and cute enough but i would work at just abt anything to save my pet.
This is not intended to be judgemental, no response is wrong, i've just got time on my hands and am really interested.
on 30-03-2018 10:57 PM
it's sad, isn't it. A shame their life span is not the same as ours.
on 31-03-2018 12:03 AM
I agree with nearly all of the views here, but I think Freddie summed it up nicely. My only contribution is to consider the decision over the longer-term. I have had cats euthanized and I have fought for others, despite the opinions of the vets. In most cases I feel comfortable with my decisions and that is important to me now.
on 31-03-2018 08:50 AM
Sometimes it amazes me we're kinder to our pets than we are to our love ones.
on 31-03-2018 08:54 AM
@the_bob_delusionwrote:Sometimes it amazes me we're kinder to our pets than we are to our love ones.
Sometimes peoples pets are their loved ones Bob.
on 31-03-2018 08:57 AM
@freddie*roosterwrote:
@the_bob_delusionwrote:Sometimes it amazes me we're kinder to our pets than we are to our love ones.
Sometimes peoples pets are their loved ones Bob.
I meant euthanizing pets in pain but not for humans.
on 31-03-2018 09:20 AM
@the_bob_delusionwrote:
@freddie*roosterwrote:
@the_bob_delusionwrote:Sometimes it amazes me we're kinder to our pets than we are to our love ones.
Sometimes peoples pets are their loved ones Bob.
I meant euthanizing pets in pain but not for humans.
Oh yes that's true Bob it's hard to sit and watch a loved
one suffer herrendous pain.
31-03-2018 11:31 AM - edited 31-03-2018 11:33 AM
I've often been howled down for speaking up about how
If an animal is sick humans say 'put it down'
If a human is equally sick, we should want to force them to live in pain and suffering until 'nature takes over'
31-03-2018 01:59 PM - edited 31-03-2018 02:02 PM
@enigmabearwrote:I've often been howled down for speaking up about how
If an animal is sick humans say 'put it down'
If a human is equally sick, we should want to force them to live in pain and suffering until 'nature takes over'
My mother is opposed to euthanasia. I am not. When my father got very ill the doctors spoke about minimal care which we both opposed. They thought he had had Alzheimers for a long time when in effect it was a recent development. It was alarming at how quickly they seemed to write him off.
I would never make that decision for my mother. She would rather hang on to life even if she was very very ill, and her wishes must be respected. Frankly I think she will outlive me. 🙂
For myself there are times when I am sick of the pain and difficulty getting around but my mind is sharp so I am not giving up. But....if I am reduced to a life as a vegetable I would rather not stay on this earth and I hope that my wishes would be respected. I'd have to be pretty badly off though. One thing I noticed the last time I was in hospital as how quickly the staff jump on the bandwagon when you are unhappy about something and think you are depressed. I had to answer all kinds of damn fool questions from doctors, nurses and once to God-knows-who in a long phone call from God-knows-where (a psych I presume) to convince them I wasn't depressed. If you are stuck in a hospital with doctors and nurses who don't listen to you, where the food is ghastly, visitors are rare and they expect you to tackle physio without medication for osteoarthritis, you wouldn't be happy either. It's discouraging....but that doesn't necessarily equate to depression. I hope if I want to go they will let me....but at the same time I hope they are not going to make that decision before I am!
on 31-03-2018 08:39 PM
@springyzonewrote:it's sad, isn't it. A shame their life span is not the same as ours.
I wish cats lived longer. I've had many cats over the years and while they have all been great pets, some I still miss very much....more than others....even if they passed away a long time ago.
One thing I have noticed about cats is when they get very ill (I mean terminally) some definitely don't fight to stay alive. They will stop eating and just sleep or hide away somewhere. Not all serious illnesses are painful so that is not necessarily the reason. They think, they dream, they play, they enjoy life....and sometimes maybe they recognise when their time has come.
I would not pay a fortune to keep a loved pet alive at all costs when the pet frankly has given up. It would be selfish.
Another question on pets. Have you ever felt that a loved pet has returned briefly after death...perhaps for a last goodbye? I have and I'm not the only one to say so. It may be delusional. Who knows? But....it can be so unexpected I wonder sometimes.
on 31-03-2018 09:37 PM
@zanadoo_56wrote:
@springyzonewrote:it's sad, isn't it. A shame their life span is not the same as ours.
I wish cats lived longer. I've had many cats over the years and while they have all been great pets, some I still miss very much....more than others....even if they passed away a long time ago.
One thing I have noticed about cats is when they get very ill (I mean terminally) some definitely don't fight to stay alive. They will stop eating and just sleep or hide away somewhere. Not all serious illnesses are painful so that is not necessarily the reason. They think, they dream, they play, they enjoy life....and sometimes maybe they recognise when their time has come.
I would not pay a fortune to keep a loved pet alive at all costs when the pet frankly has given up. It would be selfish.
Another question on pets. Have you ever felt that a loved pet has returned briefly after death...perhaps for a last goodbye? I have and I'm not the only one to say so. It may be delusional. Who knows? But....it can be so unexpected I wonder sometimes.
ive had a few cats, my first was a stray kitten found in a pile of dumped building rubbish on a vacant lot when i was 12. she was so small she could fit in a tea cup!
she lived to 19, even after being hit by a car at about 5 years old!
since her ive had burmese and scottish folds, all have been indoors only. all have lived to be 16 - 19 years old, well ok, rosie is still young, 5 or 6?
my first bumese was for a while an indoor/outdoor cat but after she was bitten by a brown snake i decided no more roaming for cats.
she didnt like it, but all the others who were never allowed out were fine with it. in fact if a door was left open they had no urge to escape.
i believe keeping them indoors, feeding a good diet and keeping them up with yearly vaxinations has given them the long lives.