Is this some other poor parent's Maddie? Police appeal for help identifying blonde girl, 4

  • Unidentified girl found living in a Roma gypsy camp in central Greece
  • Man, 39, and woman, 40, arrested and charged with abducting a minor
  • The girl has fair hair and pale skin and bears no resemblance to them
  • DNA testing proved she was not related to the couple
  • Charity now caring for the girl requests global hunt to find her real parents

 

Who is she? Police are appealing for help identifying this four-year-old girl who was found on a gypsy camp in Greece after she was allegedly abducted

Who is she? Police are appealing for help identifying this four-year-old girl who was found on a gypsy camp in Greece after she was allegedly abducted

Greek authorities have requested international help to identify a four-year-old girl found living in appalling conditions in a gypsy camp with a couple whom they have arrested and charged with abducting her.

The child was found on Wednesday near Farsala in central Greece during a routine search of the camp by police looking for drugs and weapons.

The girl reportedly sparked one of the officer's curiosity as she is blonde, pale skinned and bore no resemblance to the other Roma children or the couple who claimed to be her parents.

A 39-year-old man and a 40-year-old woman have been arrested and charged with abducting a minor.

Police said they offered conflicting accounts about the girl, one claiming that she was found in a blanket, the other claiming she had been handed to them by strangers.

Police said today that DNA testing proved the girl, who is believed to be called Maria, was not related to the couple.

'Her features suggest that she might be from an eastern or northern (European) country,' regional police chief Panayiotis Tzavaras said.

Police have notified Interpol for assistance.

Detectives say they also found drugs and unregistered firearms in other parts of the settlement, which is about 280 kilometers (170 miles) north of Athens.

The police statement said the couple claimed to have a total 14 children, and had registered different numbers with authorities in three different parts of Greece.

Officers found three minors living with them in the settlement who appear to be their children - although that hasn't yet been verified by DNA testing.

The case bears a disturbing similarity to theories about the disappearance of British toddler Madeleine McCann, who went missing on a family holiday in Portugal on May 3, 2007.

The girl is now in the care of the charity 'A child's smile,' which said today it has sought the assistance of European and global groups for lost or abused children in tracking her parents.

 

She does not speak other languages than Roma but appears to understand Greek and is being communicated with by sign language.

She was said to traumatised when she arrived at her care home but has since settled and is living in a safe family environment with other children of her age.

Distress: Dirty and grimacing as her photo is taken, the little girl is now the centre of an international appeal. Authorities hope her parents can be found so the family can be reunited

Distress: Dirty and grimacing as her photo is taken, the little girl is now the centre of an international appeal. Authorities hope her parents can be found so the family can be reunited

The four-year-old girl was found living in a gypsy camp with a couple arrested and charged with abducting her from her birth parents
The identified girl was who allegedly abducted by a gypsy couple

Police said the child was found near Farsala in central Greece during a crackdown on illegal activities by Roma

A medical examination is ongoing.

Panayiotis Pardalis, a spokesman for the charity, said: 'It was obvious that she was not a Roma girl.

'She was afraid and under some psychological pressure when she arrived. Colleagues have been trying to communicate but are struggling.

'She seems to understand Greek but cannot speak it. She was living under bad conditions and was very dirty but is now safe.'

Charity director Costas Giannopoulos said the child was undergoing medical examinations.

'We are shocked by how easy it is for people to register children as their own,' he told private Skai TV.

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Re: Is this some other poor parent's Maddie? Police appeal for help identifying blonde girl, 4

Question is....was the child better off with the Roma couple or should she be returned to her real mother if it is proved that this woman is her real mother?

 

Either way, it doesn't sound like the kid is the winnerSmiley Sad

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No, either way, not good.Smiley Sad

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@am*3 wrote:

icy - I have asked you to expand on your previous statements, nowhere did I make any snarky remarks in doing so.

 

Well that's your take on it but ok

 

I am interested in comments that are made on rdetails reported in the media so far,not made up stuff.

 

Nothing's been made up, you are simply misinterpreting...

 

The drug/weapon search of Roma Gypsy camps in Greece - where was it ever reported that that  those searchees were initiated because of the  Maddie McCann's case being in the media recently?

 

...nowhere (that I've seen) and that's not what I said. If you read back you'll find I said Maria was found during a search of her "parent's' premises for drugs and arms during which they found the blond kiddy known as Maria. They may have let it pass except for the fact they were on the alert for a missing young girl, namely Madeleine McCann, whose case had been reopened in Britain.

 

The two children the mother in Bulgaria has.. where did anyone in the media or elsewhere apart from 1 poster in this thread, suggest they aren't the mothers biological children? She actually has 4 children with the fair hair/colouring.

 

No media report (that I've seen) suggested any of her children weren't the mother's bio children. The article I read this morning,  that I commented on, said she several children, some of them fair-haired and with a resemblance to "Maria".

 

I raised the question on whether the fair-haired children were actually her bio children. Not an unreasonable question seeing that Maria's parents first said she was their bio child until DNA proved otherwise.

Further not an unreasonable question seeing that Gypsys tend to take in children from relinquishing parents as has been reported in various article in recent days...

 

I haven't read any further news articles on the subject since this morning so I'm a bit behind in latest developments, but this morning's report said the Bulgarian woman wasn't sure if Maria was indeed the child she gave away.

 

A DNA test will reveal one way or the other I'm sure.

 

Goes without saying, doesn't it? Smiley Wink


 

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Question is....was the child better off with the Roma couple or should she be returned to her real mother if it is proved that this woman is her real mother?

 

Either way, it doesn't sound like the kid is the winnerSmiley Sad


That's true, poor kid. I'd say she wouldn't be returned to either set of  parents but would be either institutionlised or fostered out.

She may well yearn to be back in her Gypsy life.

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gotta go be back later.

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DNA test confirms Bulgarian Roma couple mystery girl Maria's parents

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-26/dna-confirms-bulgarian-roma-couple-marias-parents/5047558

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So let me get this straight - 

 

A Bulgarian single mother of nine living in poverty in a crime ridden neighbourhod who gave away/sold/abandoned her 7 month old is now prepared to take her back.

 

And the Bulgarian authorities have kindly said they will also take her. She will go into an institution at first and then they are hoping she will be fostered.

 

Meanwhile she is sitting who-knows-where away from her only family and her only way of life because her Roma parents, who by all accounts loved her and treated her well, are in gaol. Police, who routinely raid Roma camps when they arrive in a new town, found no drugs or weapons in the Roma camp - only a blond child who's life will possibly be even harder than it was before but made even more miserable because now she will be without the love and support of an extended 'family'. 

 

Yeah - great outcome...

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Re: Is this some other poor parent's Maddie? Police appeal for help identifying blonde girl, 4

The Bulgarian family are Roma gypsies also.

The police did find drugs and weapons in the Roma Greek camp where Maria was found.

Was Maria sold by her birth mother?
Did the Greek parents buy her from a third party?
If so those are criminal offences.

The mother in Greece has many more children registered than she was able to account for..collecting Govt welfare for them...fraud.

The Bulgarian mother has alledgedly been invokved in selling other children.

The Bulgarian family live on a meagre food supply but the father is reported as being drunk most of the time. Alcohol over food?

imo neither family offer a good environment to bring up a child

Maria has been put on the street to beg for them.


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Somehow I do not think that either family can legally claim Maria.  Most likely she will be made a ward of state and placed into a foster home; I would imagine there are many families willing to take her.

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