on 19-10-2013 08:08 AM
Who is she? Police are appealing for help identifying this four-year-old girl who was found on a gypsy camp in Greece after she was allegedly abducted
Greek authorities have requested international help to identify a four-year-old girl found living in appalling conditions in a gypsy camp with a couple whom they have arrested and charged with abducting her.
The child was found on Wednesday near Farsala in central Greece during a routine search of the camp by police looking for drugs and weapons.
The girl reportedly sparked one of the officer's curiosity as she is blonde, pale skinned and bore no resemblance to the other Roma children or the couple who claimed to be her parents.
A 39-year-old man and a 40-year-old woman have been arrested and charged with abducting a minor.
Police said they offered conflicting accounts about the girl, one claiming that she was found in a blanket, the other claiming she had been handed to them by strangers.
Police said today that DNA testing proved the girl, who is believed to be called Maria, was not related to the couple.
'Her features suggest that she might be from an eastern or northern (European) country,' regional police chief Panayiotis Tzavaras said.
Police have notified Interpol for assistance.
Detectives say they also found drugs and unregistered firearms in other parts of the settlement, which is about 280 kilometers (170 miles) north of Athens.
The police statement said the couple claimed to have a total 14 children, and had registered different numbers with authorities in three different parts of Greece.
Officers found three minors living with them in the settlement who appear to be their children - although that hasn't yet been verified by DNA testing.
The case bears a disturbing similarity to theories about the disappearance of British toddler Madeleine McCann, who went missing on a family holiday in Portugal on May 3, 2007.
The girl is now in the care of the charity 'A child's smile,' which said today it has sought the assistance of European and global groups for lost or abused children in tracking her parents.
She does not speak other languages than Roma but appears to understand Greek and is being communicated with by sign language.
She was said to traumatised when she arrived at her care home but has since settled and is living in a safe family environment with other children of her age.
Distress: Dirty and grimacing as her photo is taken, the little girl is now the centre of an international appeal. Authorities hope her parents can be found so the family can be reunited
Police said the child was found near Farsala in central Greece during a crackdown on illegal activities by Roma
A medical examination is ongoing.
Panayiotis Pardalis, a spokesman for the charity, said: 'It was obvious that she was not a Roma girl.
'She was afraid and under some psychological pressure when she arrived. Colleagues have been trying to communicate but are struggling.
'She seems to understand Greek but cannot speak it. She was living under bad conditions and was very dirty but is now safe.'
Charity director Costas Giannopoulos said the child was undergoing medical examinations.
'We are shocked by how easy it is for people to register children as their own,' he told private Skai TV.
on 27-10-2013 11:07 AM
@**meep** wrote:
From what I have read, according to the Smile of the Child charity who is taking care of Maria, she could only speak a few words in Greek and since in their care, she has learnt more.
here is an interesting article:
Her lack of Greek had nothing to do with a lack of education - her community spoke Roma as did her 'parents' as did she.
This is what someone from the charity had to say about her: “The girl has accepted the people that are taking care of her now and she understands they care about her and love her. She is a very cheerful child, apart from the fact she is beautiful, she is happy and is playing with her toys all the time. She is responding normally to the environment around her. She is learning Greek and has already spoken her first words, because up until now, she had only learned the Roma language,” explained social worker Athanasia Kakarouba.
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In regards to education, why is her case any different to the millions of other children around the world who do not get educated for whatever reason? Unfortunately, there are lots of kids that live in lots of communities who don't have the advantages our kids have. There are lots of groups and charities trying to change that but that's just the way of the world unfortunately. It doesn't mean the children of Roma gypsies aren't loved or cared for.
I am amazed that this has caused such a stir. And of course it wouldn't have caused a blimp of the world media if it wasn't for the faint hope that this little girl could have been Madeline McCann, the English priveledged daughter of western parents.
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And I don't understand all this speculation about her being albino. She had a DNA test to confirm who her biological parents were. If she was Albino, the DNA test would have shown that also. And, as with everything else with this case, if she was albino then that news would have been splashed over every paper in Europe and the rest of the world. So I think we can safely assume she is not an albino.
on 27-10-2013 11:18 AM
@kennedia_nigricans wrote:henna is not bright red unless your hair is white or blonde. the colour of henna depends on the original colour of hair.
You can now get "henna hair dye" in any colour, but the original Egyptian Henna that I used to buy 50 years ago was only bright red. The Henna is red but obviously if your hair is black or very dark brown it will not end up orange, but your hands or anything else you spill it on will. Although, when I was on chemo, and friend told me that henna treatment will help to 'strengthen' my hair and it will not fall out, my dark brown hair ended up very red.
27-10-2013 11:27 AM - edited 27-10-2013 11:31 AM
i-need-a-martini wroteAnd I don't understand all this speculation about her being albino. She had a DNA test to confirm who her biological parents were. If she was Albino, the DNA test would have shown that also. And, as with everything else with this case, if she was albino then that news would have been splashed over every paper in Europe and the rest of the world. So I think we can safely assume she is not an albino.
Why do you think that DNA test for parentage, which only looks at about dozen of gene markers would show the gene for albinism? These tests are preset formulas.
Why are people here so horrified about the fact that the reason Maria is so pale is because the dark genes here parent have are not expressed = she is an albino?
"The word “albinism” refers to a group of inherited conditions. People with albinism have little or no pigment in their eyes, skin, or hair. They have inherited altered genes that do not make the usual amounts of a pigment called melanin. One person in 17,000 in the U.S.A. has some type of albinism. Albinism affects people from all races. Most children with albinism are born to parents who have normal hair and eye color for their ethnic backgrounds. Sometimes people do not recognize that they have albinism. A common myth is that people with albinism have red eyes. In fact there are different types of albinism and the amount of pigment in the eyes varies. Although some individuals with albinism have reddish or violet eyes, most have blue eyes. Some have hazel or brown eyes. "
on 27-10-2013 11:35 AM
I am not sure what the big deal is either way.
But the authorities checked her out medically. I am sure they would have confirmed the rumours of her being an albino if she was given the amount of speculation on the subject.
I am one of 4 Italian siblings. 3 of us olive skinned, brown eyde and dark haired. My brother has blue eyes, pink skin and blond hair. Doesn't make him an albino. Just makes him a throw back from a few ancestors ago that cae from the north of Europe.
on 27-10-2013 11:44 AM
Her lack of Greek had nothing to do with a lack of education - her community spoke Roma as did her 'parents' as did she.
Why do you think so many school aged children speak only Romani?
on 27-10-2013 12:19 PM
@**meep** wrote:Her lack of Greek had nothing to do with a lack of education - her community spoke Roma as did her 'parents' as did she.
Why do you think so many school aged children speak only Romani?
because they do not go to school LOL
on 27-10-2013 12:44 PM
Given that she isn't of school age yet anyway, I am not sure what language she is expected to speak? Didn't you say that you started school with no English?
Anyway I am not disagreeing - I would LOVE it if all the children in the world got a decent education. My point is that this is simply not realistic for some cultures, including a culture such as this one that is nomadic for great parts of the year.
But not giving your children an education when it is not in the realm of day to day cultural existence is not a reason to take away children or to criticise a culture.
That last sentence is a general statement and not directed at you eve.
on 27-10-2013 01:30 PM
Roma community, Farsala
Christina, aged 7, is wearing bright red reading glasses as she does her homework. Romanis usually marry at an early age and most girls are kept at home, but slowly things in this Farsala Roma community are changing. Christina is the first girl of her family to go to school. Her mother, Paraskevoula, peers over her daughter's shoulder - she is also learning to read.
Boys can go to school but girls generally don't? At least things appear to be changing now.
on 27-10-2013 01:44 PM
@am*3 wrote:Roma community, Farsala
Christina, aged 7, is wearing bright red reading glasses as she does her homework. Romanis usually marry at an early age and most girls are kept at home, but slowly things in this Farsala Roma community are changing. Christina is the first girl of her family to go to school. Her mother, Paraskevoula, peers over her daughter's shoulder - she is also learning to read.
Boys can go to school but girls generally don't? At least things appear to be changing now.
Yes, they are. Some EU countries are making more progress than others. Poland is one of them, especially during the last 15 yrs or so.
While, obviously, retaining cultural identity is important, I don't think ensuring Roma children receive what every child is entitled to, is in anyway disrespectful towards their way of life, providing it is done in a sensitive manner.
According to a UNESCO report, majority of f Gypsies in Greece are illiterate. I is not unreasonable to think that the children do not attend school.
Maria was not removed from her home because of that.
on 27-10-2013 02:21 PM
Given that she isn't of school age yet anyway, I am not sure what language she is expected to speak? Didn't you say that you started school with no English?
I started school overseas. I continued it here from yr 10, at that time I did not speak English. I understand what you're getting at though..