Islam in Australia: Living and dying for the flag of Allah

[nero_bolt]

• Sydney-based radicaal Islamic group denounce Australian flag and talk about beheading ‘non-believers’
• Tony Abbott: “the only flag that should be flying is the Australian national flag”
• Wissam Haddad: “Shahada flag ... that’s a flag that I stand and live and die for and I don’t stand and live and die for the Australian flag”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/islam-in-australia-living-and-dying-for-the-flag-of-allah/...

A SENIOR leader of radical Sydney-based Islamic organisation al-Risalah has denounced the Australian flag, as the group’s supporters posted Facebook messages about ­beheading “non-believers”.

Wissam Haddad, the head of the al-Risalah Islamic Centre in Sydney’s southwest, yesterday told The Daily Telegraph he followed the “flag of Allah” rather than the flag of Australia.

The flag, called the Shahada, is the same as the one used by Islamic State terrorists who have been spreading death and terror across the Middle East.

TIM BLAIR: A LOOK INSIDE SYDNEY’S MUSLIM LAND

TIM BLAIR REPLIES TO SOME OF HIS DETRACTORS

I’m not comfortable personally holding the (Australian) flag because this flag does not represent me as a Muslim. My flag is the flag of Allah. That’s my flag.

I’m not comfortable personally holding the (Australian) flag because this flag does not represent me as a Muslim

“For me to have the Shahada flag, as it’s called, that’s a flag that I stand and live and die for and I don’t stand and live and die for the Australian flag.”

Mr Haddad’s comments came just hours after Prime Minister Tony Abbott told Ray Hadley on 2GB radio that “the only flag that should be flying is the Australian national flag”.

The PM sat down with community leaders yesterday in a bid to allay fears about recently beefed-up counter-terror laws.

“We’ve got a serious problem of radicalised people going to the Middle East to fight with terrorist groups,” he said.

“Some of them will want to come back to Australia and they do pose a risk if they do, because they’ve been radicalised, militarised and brutalised by the experience.”

In the past week, al-Risalah followers have posted messages about beheading, in the wake of the shocking image of Sydney terrorist Khaled Sharrouf’s son holding the severed head of a Syrian soldier.

This followed fellow terrorist and former Sydney boxer Mohamed Elomar posting similar photographs on Twitter. Al-Risalah members wear black supporter vests, which sell for $65.

The al-Risalah centre has hosted radical preachers, and Mr Haddad is a supporter of the Islamic State’s “Jizyah” protection tax on Christians and Jews in Syria and Iraq.

Also yesterday, teenage Muslim extremist Sulyman Khalid, who was arrested for an alleged hate crime against a Bankstown cleaner, has been released on bail. Mr Khalid, who calls himself Abu Bakr, will front Bankstown Local Court on September

[anga_dors]

These people are a minority , just like the bunker-building white supremacist so-called Christian groups. The mordoch newspaper articles and bolt blogs that concentrate on demonising Islam for their own ends are actually making rhings worse. The CIA gave ISIS the weapons and money to keep the Shia militias in line, but as usual (much like arming Bin Laden) it grew beyonf their control. i suggest the author write to them (and former president bush as well as the architect cheney )

[the_great_she_elephant]

Did anyone watch Media Watch last night regarding the supposed interview with ISIS Commander Omar Shishani on the 3AW Drive show? The sheer incompetence and gullibility of the interviewer would be ROFL funny had the spoof not gone viral and sucked in social media rent-a-patriots all round the world.

[nero_bolt]

Last drinks in Lakemba: Tim Blair takes a look inside Sydney’s Muslim Land

Lakemba may be only 30 minutes from the centre of Sydney, yet it is remarkably distinct from the rest of the city. You can walk the length of crowded Haldon St and not hear a single phrase in English. On this main shopping strip the ethnic mix seems similar to what you’d find in any Arabic city. Australia may be multicultural, but Haldon St is a monoculture.

A few weeks ago a large crowd of mostly young men assembled outside the Lakemba Hotel. Waving black flags, the men chanted: “Palestine is Muslim land. The solution is jihad.”

I asked a non-Islamic local about that night. “You should see them when they really go off,” she said. “That was nothing.” Another non-Islamic woman said young men sometimes shouted “sharmuta” at her from their cars. She looked up the word online and discovered it was an Arabic term for prostitute.

Across the road from the hotel is the Islamic Bookstore, which bills itself as “your superstore of Islamic knowledge”. Three books caught my eye.

Here’s an extract from Muhammad bin Jamil Zino’s “What a Muslim Should Believe”, a handy Q & A guide to the Koran’s instructions:

“Question 43: Is it allowed to support and love disbelievers? “Answer: No, it is not allowed.”

Well, that might explain a few things. “The History of the Jews” seems a bland enough title, but the back cover quotes lines from Martin Luther that were used by the Nazis: “The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful people as they.”

The book offers this view, on page 16: “No one can deny the fact that the Jews are the worst kind of barbarian killers the world has ever known!!! The decent great Adolf Hitler of Germany never killed in the manner of the Jews!!! Surely only mad people or those who love killing infants, pregnant women and the infirm will think differently.”

It goes on and on. Another extract: “Humor and jokes are strictly forbidden by the Jewish religion.” This will come as a surprise to just about every Jew on earth.

Another must-read is Mansoor Abdul Hakim’s charming 2009 text, “Women Who Deserve to go to Hell.” Turns out there are quite a lot of them.

“Some people keep asking about the denizens of Hell and the reason why women will go to hell in large numbers,” writes Hakim in the book’s foreword before listing various types of hell-bound females, including the grumbler, the quarrelsome woman, women with tattoos and women who refuse to have ******************** 

Mix this level of ignorance and loathing with the Islamic community’s high rate of unemployment, and conflict is inevitable. The Islamic riots of 2012 ended up in central Sydney but began here in Lakemba and surrounding suburbs, where seething young Muslims formed their plans, including printing signs reading “Behead all those who insult the prophet”.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/last-drinks-in-lakemba-tim-blair-takes-a-look-inside-sydne...

[anga_dors]

Moslem bashing (even thinly disgiused) is miserable and groundless. Especially in light of Christian churches and wholesale child abuse,the tip of the iceberg is what we've seen so far ,  attacking Islam over a minority is absurd, it's like saying the PM is a pedo because he's Catholic.

[kilroy_is_here · Accepted solution]

So let me get this straight we are not aloud to criticise Muslims in any way yet they can threaten to cut my head off and bomb my house, well I'm very sorry but if they day comes that they are outside my door hope you are there to stand between us and explain to them that one of us is wrong

[karliandjacko]

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@kilroy_is_here wrote:
So let me get this straight we are not aloud to criticise Muslims in any way yet they can threaten to cut my head off and bomb my house, well I'm very sorry but if they day comes that they are outside my door hope you are there to stand between us and explain to them that one of us is wrong

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That's not what the poster said at all.

It's more a matter of it's  pointless to attack a whole group of people over the comments made by one. 

The more we follow the path of focussing on division they more conflict will evolve here.  

The guy is a clueless nutter who would do his community a favour by keeping his mouth firmly shut.  His elders are telling him and he won't listen.  They fear for other young people who are influenced by this nutter and his fundamentalist mates.  marginalising them more won't help solve the problem.

[anga_dors]

of course you can , but it shows you react to beat-ups rather than facts. you know they are a small minority don't you ? nobody but loony radicals are threatening you as is happening with loony radicals on this side (team orstralia) threatening them. there is no difference.

[azureline**]

I don't understand why they publicise it. Better to give them the attention they deserve........ nothing