Islam is a political doctrine not a religion!

[ufo_investigations]

Watch this:

Dr.Bill Warner - A Taste of Islam

[lal-au0]

there is that slogan: it goes something like that "those who forget history are damned to repeat it" or something around those lines.

now. there is a group of people who think that they are superior human beings and they want to rule the world. they also want to kill all jews and homosexuals.

ever heard of such a thing?

and what do we do seeing history repeated?

we defend those people and find all sorts of excuses for their evil deeds.

lest we forget? or already forgotten what happened not so long ago?

they even deny the holocaust.

what does it take to make you recognise what is going on? are you waiting for them to stick swasticas on their clothing before you realise what is going on?

are you really that blind?

[nevynreally]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

Hello gewens. We are not engaging in interpersonal dispute. We are engaging in an interesting discussion about important and sometimes challenging issues.

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I agree with you, but I don't. who button pushed? Get a life already. let people talk if thats what they want to do.

[iapetus_rocks]

She ele . . .  I thought we'd been through this before. Just because the Bible may endorse or excuse lying, does not make it right and nor does it excuse nor mitigate the instruction contained in the Koran, to lie. They are both wrong.

One wrong does not excuse another.

It's not helpful to say something like " but he/she does it, therefore it's ok if I/they do it too"

Just like people bring up the attitudes towards women expressed in the Bible as a comparison when Koranic attitudes are criticised. It is not enough to say "but we do it too"

That doesn't make it any more right. And it doesn't make it any more acceptable.

[fourandsixpants]

I would watch the video but I do not have sound. So I cannot comment on it, sorry but thanks for posting.

I studied religions as a minor elective, part of a course, many years ago.I chose to study different religions because I was/am interested. I am not super religious or a church goer We looked at and made comparisons with Christianity (Protestants, Catholics, Presbyterians, Weslyans, Born agains, JW's, Latter Days/Mormans....etc etc), Shinto, Baha'i, Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, Hindu.....and a few others including several cults and religious practises from various places around the world. It was fascinating stuff.

One thing I do well remember is that Christianity is one of the most bloodthirsty and judgemental religions of the lot!

I am a Christian myself btw....not a church going one.

All religions have very close similarities.They all have at least one good guy/entity and at least one bad guy/entity, often there is a 'triangle'/trilogy of central power (for want of a better phrase) to be found in each religion. Not all have a saviour. All preach to behave and do 'good' rather than bad and there will be consequences for your actions and sometimes for your thoughts even (Catholicism was the worst for this imho!)  

The most complicated was Hindu. Judaism exhausting! Shinto seemed honourable,Buddhism has some wonderful ideas and loved the Karma bit-the unexplained is explained by using the term 'Karma' LOL, Islam seemed quite straight forward-but having said that I do not condone any form of extremism that we have been told has been occuring lately. Christianity has it's extremists too.Bad people using a front of 'religion' to carry on in an extreme way. Hurting your fellowman kind in the name of any of these religions was not something we saw or read in studying the various texts adopted by all these religions.

Warnings are written throughout ALL the religious texts.The Bible, The Q'uran/Koran whatever the texts. Not all that is written in them is meant literally.

I respect other people's religious beliefs but not those of extreme fanatics....these people would not be following any of the above 'true' religions.

I prefer to follow my belief that God is not just to be found in a church building or synagogue or even on a particular coloured/sized prayer rug facing in a certain direction at a set time of day........ 

I believe My God can be found in my fellow mankind:)

One thing is for sure though.....you do not have to be a Dr of something to have a faith/belief/religion.

I am always mightily suspicious of people calling themselves 'Dr' when speaking about sex, politics or religion!!!

[jeastu_1ldsti]

Please try research things independently. Go pick up a book read instead listening to a anti-Islam basher. He is only here to make money out of you.

As for Taqiyya. I recommend you read this article thoroughly;

http://discover-the-truth.com/2015/01/24/response-to-taqiyya-deception-lying/

[jeastu_1ldsti]

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@lal-au0 wrote:

quote from the video:

"everything that mohammed did is perfection and is to be imitated by all muslims"

that means that men are encouraged to do as mohammed did, marry a 6 yo girl and consumate the marriage when she is 9 yo and he is 54 yo.

great.

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Such marriages are prohibited under Islamic law. The marriage of Aisha to Mohammed was an exception and was later abrogated by the Quran:
http://discover-the-truth.com/2014/11/21/minimum-age-for-marriage-in-the-quran/

Age of consent in America and Europe was 10, only 100 years ago;
http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/

[jeastu_1ldsti]

Here is the meaning for Taqiyya from Muslim and non-Muslim scholars;

http://discover-the-truth.com/2015/01/22/taqiyya-takiya-meaning/

[jeastu_1ldsti]

You're right the Bible does allow white lies in order to save lives. Here is a detailed article on this;
http://discover-the-truth.com/2015/01/22/holy-bible-allows-lying-deception/

[jeastu_1ldsti]

You must be living a very lonely life to have so much hate and bigotry towards one faith of people. Comparing Nazism to Islam is ridiculous. The verses in the Quran which indicates such are HISTORICAL passages that were sent down in order to fight in self-defence against the persecutors.

As for homosexuality. Ghana which is a Christian country has outlawed Homosexuality. Many gays get killed by Christian vigilantes in Ghana, when was the last time you heard anything about this in the Media?

[iapetus_rocks]

Here's the link to the  Wiki discussion of taqiyya; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

There is a lot to read on this subject and there are sites which are anti-Islam which will give their slant on it, just as there are pro-Islam sites which will give a different interpretation.

it's as important to take into account who one is reading as it is what one is reading.