Islamic dress vs the rest of the world

[i-need-a-martini]

How come the burka/niqab is a security risk but the abaya is not? 

How is the burka/niqab oppressive to women but the abaya and the hijab is not?

How is the burka/niqab oppressive to women but the sari is not?

How come the burka/niqab is oppressive to women but the shetel/tishel of jewish women is not?

How come the burka/niqab is oppressive to women but the way Nikki Minaj dressed and behaved in Anaconda is not?

Is a sikhs kacchera and turban oppressive to Indian men? If not why would they wear it?

[goldenjet16]

"well I have just ordered a burkini online, does that help."

Does head gear come with that??

[the_great_she_elephant]

I've bought myself this - should arrive sometime in the next few days. (you need toscroll down aa bit to see it.)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/380999206250?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648

I love maxi dresses and being tall I can carry them off, but my arms don't really like the sun and kaftans make me look a bit bulky.

[bushies.girl]

LIke we really NEED yet ANOTHER thread relating to Muslims and their garb?   Why not just accept the FACT that some people like it and some don't .....  

It's continually having his kind of garbage thrown in my face all the time that is turning me off Muslims altogether   ... Islamaphobic?  Nup!  ..... Totally fed up  Yup!

[bsal6160]

oops, sits on the sidelines and puts my helmet on.

[i-need-a-martini]

I note that you make a comment like this on a thread that questions the validity of anti-muslim sentiments without responding to my (genuine) questions yet continue to post on a thread about banning the burka.

[icyfroth]

So have you ever worn a burqa, Martini?

[id-to-post-anything]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

How come the burka/niqab is a security risk but the abaya is not? 

How is the burka/niqab oppressive to women but the abaya and the hijab is not?

How is the burka/niqab oppressive to women but the sari is not?

How come the burka/niqab is oppressive to women but the shetel/tishel of jewish women is not?

How come the burka/niqab is oppressive to women but the way Nikki Minaj dressed and behaved in Anaconda is not?

Is a sikhs kacchera and turban oppressive to Indian men? If not why would they wear it?

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do you know what every single one of these are and how much face, if any, its covers?

[muppet_detector]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Or how about white wedding dresses - the ultimate symbol of a western womans virginity given away (n public) by one male to another male?

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that's not opressive, that's patriarchial. And in modern Western Culture at least, marriage and wedding atire are generally personal choices.

At least most of us aren't "handed over" with a herd of goats (anymore).

(That is in reference to old western traditions - the dowery. I have no idea if there is an exchange of assets in other cultures either now or in the past).

[i-need-a-martini]

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@id-to-post-anything wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

How come the burka/niqab is a security risk but the abaya is not? 

How is the burka/niqab oppressive to women but the abaya and the hijab is not?

How is the burka/niqab oppressive to women but the sari is not?

How come the burka/niqab is oppressive to women but the shetel/tishel of jewish women is not?

How come the burka/niqab is oppressive to women but the way Nikki Minaj dressed and behaved in Anaconda is not?

Is a sikhs kacchera and turban oppressive to Indian men? If not why would they wear it?

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do you know what every single one of these are and how much face, if any, its covers?

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Yes to the first question (why would I post aout something I didn't know?) and see post 10 for the answer to the second question.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@muppet_detector wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Or how about white wedding dresses - the ultimate symbol of a western womans virginity given away (n public) by one male to another male?

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that's not opressive, that's patriarchial. And in modern Western Culture at least, marriage and wedding atire are generally personal choices.

At least most of us aren't "handed over" with a herd of goats (anymore).

(That is in reference to old western traditions - the dowery. I have no idea if there is an exchange of assets in other cultures either now or in the past).

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But isn't that what you are arguing is the reason that muslim womens dress is oppressive - because they are FORCED to wear it by men. Isn't that type of male dominance patriarchial? 

And as I keep saying, we make the assumption that muslim women have no choice. If we put those countries aside where women need to cover up by law like in Australia, women DO have a personal choice.