It's definately colder this winter

[cat_mioux]

I managed to get through the whole of winter last year NOT putting the heating on during the day and only putting it on for a few hours in the evening.

But these last few days I decided I'm over sitting here miserable wearing a coat but still shivering. The thermostat says it's 13 C inside the house! 😮

The heating is now on. The kitties better get themselves a paper route because I'm gonna need the extra cash when the bill comes 😐

[monman12]

LL: "open your mind john. take on some ludicrous theories for the heck of it"

"open"?. Unable to so do LL, I have been involved with the physical sciences and engineering for far too long .

POD You quote the "hockey stick graph",  so in a few words explain why it is important (to yourself), especially with reference to Michael Mann's research, and further peer studies  covering the period involved.

[icyfroth]

carbon dioxide man made global warming is a SCAM.

It is designed to introduce a global threat and a global tax.

It is designed to send our industries to the Third World and reduce our standard 

of living and bring us down to the Third World.

Go and research the CLUB OF ROME and ICLEI and WILDLANDS PROJECT.

The aim is to herd humans into compact cities with limited travel and a reduced standard of living.   And  a a reduced population.

IT is being sold to you under the themes of Sustainability and saving the planet.

The ultimate aim is a One WOrld Govt - this is why there the trade barriers are being reduced and there are unions being slowly introduced.

eg the EU - borders will be further reduced next year allowing further free movement within europe.

I am all for reducing waste / real pollution and using what I need - but what we are being sold is a scam with a nasty agenda behind it

Look for the signs - you can find them - an article in the UK last week - a call for meat to be eaten only for special occasions as it is 'not sustainable'.

This is accustoming you to the idea of having less and a reduced standard of living - and there are plenty of other examples.

This is one example of the scam being pushed in the same of saving the planet - do some research

you know...

the fact that Obama is getting behind the global warming thing is setting of alarm bells for me.

I still can't discount the fact that pollution, deforestation, overfishing etc is destroying earth's capabilities to sustain life.

[poddster]

John, as you well know even a minute deviation can be made to look dramatic depending how the scale is applied

[poddster]

you know...

the fact that Obama is getting behind the global warming thing is setting of alarm bells for me.

I still can't discount the fact that pollution, deforestation, overfishing etc is destroying earth's capabilities to sustain life.

Obama has caught the scent of Tax

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

"open your mind john. take on some ludicrous theories for the heck of it"

Clearly, he already has.......;-)

:^O:^O

See how silly it is..........:-D

[lakeland27]

i see how silly someone is.

[monman12]

POD: "John, as you well know even a minute deviation can be made to look dramatic depending how the scale is applied"

I will address that later POD, but I repeat:

POD You quote the "hockey stick graph",  so in a few words explain why it is important (to yourself), especially with reference to Michael Mann's research, and further peer studies  covering the period involved.

[icyfroth]

See how silly it is..........:-D

I certainly see how you come across as silly

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

Did your quote not work out for you LL? ........:-D

You ever did provide evidence that man made c02 has caused global warming LL....how's that coming along......

You've only had decades to prepare that information......:^O

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

Why can't any Alarmists on the forum, ever provide evidence, that man made c02 has caused global warming........

Because there isn't any.......giggle...:-D