Julie Bishop for PM?.....??

*sheesh

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LNP does have a quota for female ministers, one is one too many
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@monman12 wrote:

V3000 , my point,  which I have made a few times before and which P007 ignores (inconvenient to the party line),  is that within the legal system  the cab-rank rule is the obligation of a barrister to accept any work in a field in which he/she  professes competent to practise, at a court at which he normally appears, and at  usual rates.  

 

Bishop was a lawyer with Robinson Cox  which became Clayton Utz ,   CSR,  was a long-time Robinson Cox client, and as a result . Bishop, then Julie Gillon, became CSR's instructing solicitor.

 

I have asked  (with little success) what P007 thinks of lawyers who have to represent murderers, rapists, paedophiles. No perceived grist for the ALP mill there though.

 

 

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You do not get get it do you.  It is one thing to represent some unsavory people, people who have done terrible things, but totally other to object to a victim getting special treatment "just because they are dying". 

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@vicr3000 wrote:

At least Bishop doesn't need a quota to get a job LOL, unlike Labor women.



really?  so she is not the token woman in the parliament?

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I won't challenge: Julie Bishop tells Tony Abbott and cabinet colleagues

 

Date: February 3, 2015 - 5:02PM
 

 

Julie Bishop has told Prime Minister Tony Abbott and her cabinet colleagues that she will not challenge for the leadership. 

 

In a bid to end days of damaging speculation, Ms Bishop assured the Prime Minister she had not been campaigning for his job and had not phoned backbenchers seeking their support or been counting any numbers.

 

Ms Bishop's declaration came after the Prime Minister earlier on Tuesday pointedly refused on several occasions to confirm that he asked his deputy to promise she wouldn't r... and she declined to give the pledge.

 

The deputy Liberal leader's assurance does not mean the prospect of a Julie Bishop prime ministership is completely off the table as a commitment not to challenge does not rule her out from running if a leadership ballot is declared and all positions are open.

 

 

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/i-wont-challenge-julie-bishop-tells-tony-abbot...

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Are you incapable of understanding.

I said she didn't need a QUOTA to get elected like Labor women do.
Same as shorten wants a quota for PW&Ls ! Lol

Nothing to do with numbers.

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Electoral quotas for women: an international overview

 

  • Electoral quotas have gained international support and have proven to be effective in ‘fast-tracking’ women’s political representation to produce equality of results, not just equality of opportunity.

In 2012 the Australian Government committed $320 million to support a 10-year initiative to ‘empower women and to promote gender equality in the Pacific’ region, which has the world’s lowest proportion of women parliamentarians.[1]

 

Whilst Australian governments have endorsed the concept of gender equality through a range of equal opportunity and anti-discrimination laws and policies, the matter of women’s parliamentary representation has been left to the political parties. In common with other countries, the argument about electoral gender quotas in Australia is divided along ideological lines, with the Australian Labor Party supporting voluntary party quotas and the Liberal ̶ Nationals Coalition parties opposing them.

 

Australian Labor Party

The Australian Labor Party adopted an Affirmative Action Rule in 1994 that committed the party to achieving preselection of women for 35 per cent of winnable seats at all parliamentary elections by 2002.[65]

 

Coalition parties

The Coalition parties, comprising the Liberal Party of Australia and the Nationals, do not formally support gender quotas on the basis that they contradict the principle of merit for political candidates. Instead, the parties have adopted strategies to develop women’s networks within the party and provide support for women to stand for preselection.[68]

 

Minor parties

Australia’s larger minor parties, the Australian Democrats (formed in 1977) and Australian Greens (formed in 1992), have both embraced gender equity as a founding principle. Neither party has adopted a gender quota, although each has achieved a relatively high percentage of women candidates, and both have had women as party leaders.

 

Conclusions

 

  • Electoral gender quotas are a type of special measure or affirmative action designed to increase women’s political representation. They may be mandated through constitutional or legislative change to create reserved seats or legal candidate quotas, or achieved through voluntary quotas adopted by individual political parties.

  • Gender quotas have gained the support of international organisations, including the United Nations, and have proven to be effective in ‘fast-tracking’ women’s political representation. However, they continue to be controversial, particularly in liberal democracies where critics oppose them on the basis that they discriminate against men and undermine the selection of candidates or parliamentarians on the basis of merit.

  • Certain factors contribute to the effectiveness of quota systems:

–      a commitment to women’s political representation from key decision-makers

–      political parties play a crucial role as gatekeepers in recruiting, nominating and pre-selecting candidates

–      voluntary party quotas require rules concerning the order of candidates on party lists to ensure that women candidates have           an equal opportunity to contest ‘winnable’ seats

–      candidate quotas, whether legal or voluntary, may require additional incentives or sanctions for non-compliance in order to be         effective

–      quota systems should be supported by appropriate mentoring and training programs to attract and support women                             candidates, and

–      gender-sensitive parliaments are necessary to ‘remove the barriers to women’s full participation and offer a positive example             or model to society at large’.[76]

  • While gender quotas offer a mechanism for increasing the number of women in parliament, countries also need longer-term strategies that address historical barriers to women’s participation and actively promote gender-sensitive parliaments.

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp131...

 

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Equality LOL

Must be embarrassing needing a leg up when women are supposed to want to be respect.


Next we will be picking military combat leaders based on gender alone, god help us when that happens.

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Reply to no one in particular............Julie Bishop - why not ?

 

Are there any political or sensible reasons from the NOT JULIE tribe - rather than 'we just you don't like the look/sound/idea of her' ??

 

Since when is politics a personal(ity) choice?

 

I thought it all came down to the integrity of a member, not whether they would look good on a poster....

 

I couldn't care less one way or the other, they are all tarred with the same brush as far as I am concerned, (maybe not at the beginning of thier career, but they learn pretty quick) but at least my 'don't care attitude' comes from years of let downs, not sexual or aesthetic preferences.

 

who would you like to be the 'figure head of Australia.......

 

I realise it is an unfair question.....what a choice !!!

 

 

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Julie Bishop hasn't got any experience in domestic affairs. Trotting around the world  as Foreign Affairs minister doesn't equate to her having the experience and qualities to be a Prime Minister.

 

Nov 2014 - 

When asked about her leadership aspirations she said: 'I'm very much part of our team, and looking forward to remaining so for some time to come.'

 

She said being foreign minister was her dream job.

 

'I can assure you that this is the job that I came into politics for,' she told Sky News.

 

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Am3

What experience did Julia Gillard have ?

Double standards again.

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