Just watched 60 minutes.

[horizon1907]

Don't normally watch 60 Minutes, but did tonight. How utterly disturbing was that "story" about the  "Baby Gammy "couple  ?? 

I hope the powers that be, keep an a very close eye on that whole case.  Something just doesn't gell ? 😞 

[cherry*135]

karlia wrote:

The Australian mother has been described as a mail order bride. 

I don't know how or where they met but she hasn't been in Australia for many years. 

I read she was Australian born. I will see if I can find where I read that.

edited to add:

10 Aug 2014

The Thai surrogate mother of baby Gammy says Wendy Farnell, the Chinese-born Australian woman portrayed as the child’s biological mother, did not supply the egg that was implanted in her before she fell pregnant.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/wendy-farnell-did-not-supply-the-egg-gammys-thai-mother-says-20140810-10...

 The surrogate mother initially said Wendy F did supply the egg then changed her story to say she wasn't.

Earlier this year the surrogate mother was advt on Facebook for egg donors (they get paid $600+) and also for surrogate mothers.

Totally illegal no doubt.

[cherry*135]

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@twinkles**stars wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

@twinkles wrote: Air time given to the couple has a positive result. Everyone now knows who they are, what they look like, where they live.  Their every move will be watched and monitored by many. Better this way? 

It was no secret who they were & where they live though. No advantage to people outside their local area knowing what they look like.

IF you had watched all the program you would have heard him say that after his convictions he didn't move away and hide. People where they live know who he is and what he did (previous convictions).

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I had no desire to watch it all. His face will be remebered by all....there is a chance they may move at any time, even next door to you or me. 

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I doubt it.

My comment  above was in reply to yours, which was not correct, as that information was widely available (plus photos of the house they lived in) before the 60 minutes program aired.

[karliandjacko]

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@twinkles**stars wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

@twinkles wrote: Air time given to the couple has a positive result. Everyone now knows who they are, what they look like, where they live.  Their every move will be watched and monitored by many. Better this way? 

It was no secret who they were & where they live though. No advantage to people outside their local area knowing what they look like.

IF you had watched all the program you would have heard him say that after his convictions he didn't move away and hide. People where they live know who he is and what he did (previous convictions).

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I had no desire to watch it all. His face will be remebered by all....there is a chance they may move at any time, even next door to you or me. 

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I doubt it.  he lives in the same area as he his family has for generations.  The street he abused in is named after his ancestors.

[cherry*135]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:
Surrogate mother - a woman who bears a child on behalf of another woman, either from her own egg fertilized by the other woman's partner, or from the implantation in her womb of a fertilized egg from the other woman.

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Yes?  I do understand that.  The question here is that the surrogate  claims that the eggs were not donated by the man's  "Australian" partner but by another woman who is Asian.  Did she realise that the man's partner is Asian?  How did she know who donated the egg?

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I just hit reply to the last post which was yours. My post wasn't directed at you 

There was an earlier post that gave a suggestion that neither of the Aust parents donated (egg/sperm) That would make it even more complicated.. Thai surrogate mother, donor Dad, donor Mum and Aust parents. Not a surrogate mother situation in the usual sense.

Did she realise that the man's partner is Asian?  I don't know if the Aust parents get to meet & choose a surrogate mother in these Thai clinic arrangements.

How did she know who donated the egg? The surrogate mother said at first the Aust mother was the donor of the egg, then changed her story and said it was a Thai woman.  If she knew officially who did donate the egg, she wouldn't have made that mistake.

[4564flossy]

It made me sick to think that this little girl is going to grow up with a pedo father. And she was no better. If the authorities let this little girl stay with this so called man then they will have alot to answer for.  He CANNOT be trusted with any child. Once a pedo always a pedo, no question. This little girl needs to be with a family that holds no threat to her what so ever. What back ground checks did anyone do. Why was this allowed to happen. What sort of a system will we be telling people if this little girl is allowed to stay with this convicted criminal. He should never be able to be near kids full stop. He gave his victims a life sentence he should have one too. 

[daydream**believer]

Dont get me wrong, i do not support that man and i do believe the baby girl should be taken off them but, i also dont believe the stuff the surrogate mum is saying either.

I think both sides are full of you know what and i dont think we will ever get the real version of what happened.

The surrogate agency is actually supporting what the Farnell's have said

[karliandjacko]

The farnell's said the  agency has closed and they have not been in contact with them.

[azureline**]

some of the story is clearly wrong.

They said the mother breached the contract by going to a different hospital....... they were 2 months premmie! why wouldn't she go to a closer hospital?

They had 8 months to get him back.................. they did NOTHING.

[karliandjacko]

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@azureline** wrote:

some of the story is clearly wrong.

They said the mother breached the contract by going to a different hospital....... they were 2 months premmie! why wouldn't she go to a closer hospital?

They had 8 months to get him back.................. they did NOTHING.

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They clearly contradict themselves.  First they didn't know the boy existed then they said they wanted him aborted as nobody would want a "handicapped" boy. They said they didn't know about him but also said they wanted a refund for the imperfect unwanted half of the twins they paid for.  

[twinkles**stars]

🙂 

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@am*3 wrote:

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:
Surrogate mother - a woman who bears a child on behalf of another woman, either from her own egg fertilized by the other woman's partner, or from the implantation in her womb of a fertilized egg from the other woman.

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Yes?  I do understand that.  The question here is that the surrogate  claims that the eggs were not donated by the man's  "Australian" partner but by another woman who is Asian.  Did she realise that the man's partner is Asian?  How did she know who donated the egg?

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I just hit reply to the last post which was yours. My post wasn't directed at you 

There was an earlier post that gave a suggestion that neither of the Aust parents donated (egg/sperm) That would make it even more complicated.. Thai surrogate mother, donor Dad, donor Mum and Aust parents. Not a surrogate mother situation in the usual sense.

Did she realise that the man's partner is Asian?  I don't know if the Aust parents get to meet & choose a surrogate mother in these Thai clinic arrangements.

How did she know who donated the egg? The surrogate mother said at first the Aust mother was the donor of the egg, then changed her story and said it was a Thai woman.  If she knew officially who did donate the egg, she wouldn't have made that mistake.

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Australian mother who is Thai?