LGTB in Christianity

 Do you think it's possible to be LGTB and a Christian?

 

 What about other religions/faiths/beliefs?

 

 Note: Please don't be nasty! Whatever your personal beliefs, I didn't start this thread so you could offend each other. Please be nice and try to be understanding. This is a public forum, anyone can read what is written here. Thanks!

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Correction:  60% of all those worldwide living with AIDS live in SubSaharan Africa and of those 60% at least 90% and posiblly as many as  99%  acquired it through heterosexual contact

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@icyfroth wrote:

@cmcoins2000 wrote:

@jessicadazzler wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

@jessicadazzler wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

 I can't shake off the feeling that God made man and women and He put them together for a reason 

 

He also made hermaphrodites - whenre do they fit into the divine plan?


 They have the freedom to choose how they live.


So, as far as you are concerned, God would be quite happy for two hermaphrodites to each other - as long as they didn't both choose to be the same sex at the same time?


 I'm not entirely sure what I think of the whole situation. Like I've said, it's not that I'm against two people of the same sex being together, it's just that right now my personal conviction is that it's not right for me and my own beliefs.


What has two people of the same sex who love each other being together got to do with you & your beliefs.??


Well it's all about beliefs isn't it? 2 horny ppl of the same sex BELIEVE they're in love and BELIEVE they have the right to demand equal marriage rights.

 


 
this comment implies same sex couples only think its love when its just lust.

 

there is more to loving someone than being horny.

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@skyrider12-au wrote:

 

No I want to argue that homosexual sex is harmful - that's what your refusing to believe/understand

You suspect..? well can you provide a link to that info? You seem to have deliberatly ignored the fact that homosexual activity isn't harmful to them. To take that further and include society - well who is it that pays for their hospitalisation etc when they do become unwell? I'm not saying that heterosexuals don't impact on society in the same manner but you said that the homosexuals don't cause any harm, and that's what I want to talk about.

 

 


@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

@skyrider12-au wrote:

Homosexuality - it has no harmful effect either on those who practice it 

 

If that's what you think are you able to explain why are so many homosexuals are dead from aids,why so many many are carrying the herpes virus and other contagious diseases that are not found in abundance in heterosexuals?  "Not harmful" ,yeah right!!!!


You might just as well argue that sex of any kind is harmful. Every genetic disorder known to mankind is  passed on through sexual congress. In fact, you could even argue that sex between same sex couples is less dangerous since it does not entail the potential passing on of harmful genes.

 

And I suspect a bit of research would show you that, worldwide,AIDS has killed more heterosexuals than it has homosexuals.


 


the only proper argument is that unprotected sex of any kind carries risks.

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Every argument brought out against why gays should not get married can also apply to why heterosexuals should get not married.

 

And as for the sexual disease argument....if some are so concerned about it, one would think they would want gays(as well as heterosexuals) to commit to one person only and not be promiscuous. If anything, it only serves to enhance the ssm argument.

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Sorry.....I thought this was the gayby baby thread. Are we still talking marriage, or just shooting down gays altogether? Woman LOL

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Why are heterosexual posters so interested in LGTB* people?

 

Why cant they mind their own business?

And keep their comments, which are not based on any personal interaction with people who are LGTB*and therefore show their ignorance, to themselves?

 

 

 

*I  use LGTB due to being on topic, not because I have any regard for such an acronym.

 This is not directed to you, justpolis, it just follows your post...

 

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@justpolls wrote:

Every argument brought out against why gays should not get married can also apply to why heterosexuals should get not married.

 

And as for the sexual disease argument....if some are so concerned about it, one would think they would want gays(as well as heterosexuals) to commit to one person only and not be promiscuous. If anything, it only serves to enhance the ssm argument.


That is if you agree that promiscuity increases the incidence of sexual diseases..

 

and 

 

that the opinion that gay people being more promiscuous- because they are gay- would then all get married and commit to one person, and not be promiscuous, and sexual disease would also decrease...

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

 I can't shake off the feeling that God made man and women and He put them together for a reason 

 

He also made hermaphrodites - whenre do they fit into the divine plan?


A Christian friend of mine has just asked me to say that in his opinion God didn't make human hermaphrodites - it is simply a birth defect.

 

I would like to add to that I agree with him. In fact, if one believes inthe concept of free will then it is impossible to argue that God actually 'made' anyone - male female, LBGT or otherwise. We are all, with all our quirks, imperfections, characteristics and sexual orientations simply the end result of aons of more or less random sexual couplings.

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I also believe very strongly that homosexuality would not be right for me. However, since it has no harmful effect either on those who practice it or society as a whole

 

You don't really believe that do you? Have you not heard the recent stories of those young boys from Irish orphanages that were procured for and were ravished by ppl (men) high up in British Govenrment?

 

And don't start with that old " pedophiles  are not homosexual" wheeze.

 

If you believe that paedophiles who prey on children of the same sex do so because they are homosexual, then logically you must also believe that paedophiles who prey on children of the opposite sex do so because they are heterosexual.

 

Yes but we're talking about harmful effects, aren't we? So to say (in your statement), that homosexuality has "no harmful effect either on those who practice it or society as a whole"  is just wishful thinking at best and bullschitt at worst.

 

 

 


 

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@*pepe wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

@cmcoins2000 wrote:

@jessicadazzler wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

@jessicadazzler wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

 I can't shake off the feeling that God made man and women and He put them together for a reason 

 

He also made hermaphrodites - whenre do they fit into the divine plan?


 They have the freedom to choose how they live.


So, as far as you are concerned, God would be quite happy for two hermaphrodites to each other - as long as they didn't both choose to be the same sex at the same time?


 I'm not entirely sure what I think of the whole situation. Like I've said, it's not that I'm against two people of the same sex being together, it's just that right now my personal conviction is that it's not right for me and my own beliefs.


What has two people of the same sex who love each other being together got to do with you & your beliefs.??


Well it's all about beliefs isn't it? 2 horny ppl of the same sex BELIEVE they're in love and BELIEVE they have the right to demand equal marriage rights.

 


 
this comment implies same sex couples only think its love when its just lust.

 

I would go further and say it's the same for hetero couples.

 

there is more to loving someone than being horny.

 

Totally agree. It becomes apparent some time later when the first flush of lust has worn off,  when there are bills to be paid and the cooking and cleaning and a baby is on the way, that you realise you love your partner enough to stay in the marriage.


 

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