Labor should revolt, where are they? where's the outrage for this?

silverfaun
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Where are they? all the Labor supporters on here? I haven't heard a peep, not a whimper about the sweeping changes Rudd wants to make to the democracy of the parliament.

 

Is it the same as the cowardly cringing that went on, the sickening acquiescence to the crushing discrimination laws Roxon wanted or the attack on the freedom of the press & curtailing of our freedom of speech Conroy wanted that all the luvvies supported.

 

To their shame they supported them & then not a word when the hammer finally dropped on these 2 bills & Labor abandoned them.

 

Where are the screams & howls of protest at what Rudd wants to do, where are the true believers who believe in the power of their collective strength & the rights of the rank & file? to ensconce himself into the leadership that the party may never be able to move him from unless they cross the floor en masse & bring him & any future leaders down on the floor of the Parliament their only option?.

 

Is this the price Labor are willing to pay to win just 1 election, is this the high price to our democratic parliamentary values they are willing to abrogate just to cling onto one more term?

 

Are all Labor supporters on here going to sit quiet & say nothing about this. Where's the outrage about this abomination or is just whinging about perceived sexism all they're good for these days or pathetic nit picking.

 

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Added to this short-term, deeply political decision-making is the undeniable enjoyment Rudd would get in watching colleagues vote for a change of party rules that effectively amounted to a repudiation of their collective action in ousting him back in 2010. One final kick in the teeth for Gillard and the so-called faceless men, as it were.

 

This reform also puts the Labor Party at the potential mercy of an individual leader (ironic for the party of the collective workers), and it even increases the likelihood of a party split at some time in the future. For example, if one major faction within the Labor Party continued to support a PM it would be highly unlikely that the remainder of the party would be able to collectively achieve the 75 per cent quota required to oust the leader.

 

This is just one of a raft of unintended consequences Labor is exposing itself to

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Theoretically the reform Rudd wants his caucus to endorse means voters could keep on re-electing a leader of the Labor Party who enjoyed the support of only one-quarter of its parliamentary team, even though that same leader pursued policies totally at odds with the brand of the party they led."

 

 

 

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/sweeping-powers-create-dictatorship/story-e6frg6zo-122667855...

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@cats_back_2013 wrote:

Do you know who helped write the reforms to the Labor party??? 

 

hahahahaha

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 Kevin Rudd's eldest son, a lawyer, was involved in drafting of the reforms of the Labor Party that t...

 


So you know this young man and his credentials personally do you?  I don't, so don't feel qualified to make comment on his appointment.

Yes, on the surface, it may look like "jobs for the boys" but I would think as someone who puts themselves out there as having a serious interest in the political process you might bring a little more than this to the table. 

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"That is, if we EVER see him come out of hiding. Where the heck is he??"

He was hiding under the doona on Thursday.
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here he is/was....or was 12.01am yesterday 

 

 

Tony Abbott launches Liberal ad assault on Kevin Rudd
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Sources close to Mr Rudd said that the younger Rudd, a long-time member of the ALP, was "impressive" and had quickly become a valuable member of the team.

 

"He is very smart, and is of enormous value to us, for many reasons," said one senior insider.

 

"He is very good at keeping things on an even keel."

 



Read more: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/national-news/nsw-act/kevin-rudds-eldest-son-nicholas-becomes-on-of...

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You didn't read the article by Professor Peter Van Onselen? So your agressive attack on me is your way of serious debate about this appalling reform Rudd is trying to enact.

 

Well don't maintain your rage because the unions will  do it for you, they will never allow this megolamaniac to get this much power & so they shouldn't.

 

Sit back, rant about Abbott, don't educate yourself about the whole picture, I'm sure others who care about this country & it's democracy  will take up the slack for you, just like they did against Conroy & Roxon.

 

May I suggest you read the article first, you can get a $1 dollar subscription for 4 weeks so then you may be able to have a better, balanced  idea of what this abomination is about.

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@silverfaun wrote:

You didn't read the article by Professor Peter Van Onselen? So your agressive attack on me is your way of serious debate about this appalling reform Rudd is trying to enact.

 

Well don't maintain your rage because the unions will  do it for you, they will never allow this megolamaniac to get this much power & so they shouldn't.

 

Sit back, rant about Abbott, don't educate yourself about the whole picture, I'm sure others who care about this country & it's democracy  will take up the slack for you, just like they did against Conroy & Roxon.

 

May I suggest you read the article first, you can get a $1 dollar subscription for 4 weeks so then you may be able to have a better, balanced  idea of what this abomination is about.

 

 

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Iza's reply: 

The whole copy and pasted opening post was by him ? How would anyone know ? no link ,no reference to say who wrote it?

If it was by him I was replying to him...and his promoters 

My first quote ...how do you seperate the reply from the quoted post ? other than by putting your own line in ?

 

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@izabsmiling wrote:

 Where's the outrage about this abomination or is just whinging about perceived sexism all they're good for these days or pathetic nit picking.

 

 

 


do you honestly believe that these sorts of comments does the Liberal party any favours ?

 

Is it at all possible to take the attack out of politics and get down to what's important ...the attack the other side has gone on too long ...we all need to focus on Policies ...there is an election ahead.

When attack is all that seems to be being offered it seems to indicate that there isn't anything of real substance to support a Party


I am not the Liberal Party. I am a concerned person expressing my opinion on a very important matter. If you want to sing from the same song sheet that Labor does re "lets all be nice now"  by Rudd, who just knifed a Prime Minister & now wants to play nice, then this is sad because rigorous debate is what this reeking reform needs.

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Silver Faun, do you honestly believe that this style of reporting (regardless of who wrote it ) is of benefit to the Libs?

 

 

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Silverfaun, can you please tell me what your understanding of 'our democracy' is ?

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Iza.. 1201am is the time that the article was uploaded to the Web page.. not the time that Tony Abbott was any place.... 

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