Labor should revolt, where are they? where's the outrage for this?

[silverfaun]

Where are they? all the Labor supporters on here? I haven't heard a peep, not a whimper about the sweeping changes Rudd wants to make to the democracy of the parliament.

Is it the same as the cowardly cringing that went on, the sickening acquiescence to the crushing discrimination laws Roxon wanted or the attack on the freedom of the press & curtailing of our freedom of speech Conroy wanted that all the luvvies supported.

To their shame they supported them & then not a word when the hammer finally dropped on these 2 bills & Labor abandoned them.

Where are the screams & howls of protest at what Rudd wants to do, where are the true believers who believe in the power of their collective strength & the rights of the rank & file? to ensconce himself into the leadership that the party may never be able to move him from unless they cross the floor en masse & bring him & any future leaders down on the floor of the Parliament their only option?.

Is this the price Labor are willing to pay to win just 1 election, is this the high price to our democratic parliamentary values they are willing to abrogate just to cling onto one more term?

Are all Labor supporters on here going to sit quiet & say nothing about this. Where's the outrage about this abomination or is just whinging about perceived sexism all they're good for these days or pathetic nit picking.

"Excerpt from main article:

Added to this short-term, deeply political decision-making is the undeniable enjoyment Rudd would get in watching colleagues vote for a change of party rules that effectively amounted to a repudiation of their collective action in ousting him back in 2010. One final kick in the teeth for Gillard and the so-called faceless men, as it were.

This reform also puts the Labor Party at the potential mercy of an individual leader (ironic for the party of the collective workers), and it even increases the likelihood of a party split at some time in the future. For example, if one major faction within the Labor Party continued to support a PM it would be highly unlikely that the remainder of the party would be able to collectively achieve the 75 per cent quota required to oust the leader.

This is just one of a raft of unintended consequences Labor is exposing itself to

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Theoretically the reform Rudd wants his caucus to endorse means voters could keep on re-electing a leader of the Labor Party who enjoyed the support of only one-quarter of its parliamentary team, even though that same leader pursued policies totally at odds with the brand of the party they led."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/sweeping-powers-create-dictatorship/story-e6frg6zo-122667855...

[windrake]

Rudd the meme & the  Internet meme. His hand gestures, lip licking & phony smile are all manifestations of his narcissistic personality.

Adolph was the same, he used the meme factor to try to rule or destroy the world & whole races of people. It's been studied extensively, along with narcissism, a serious personality disorder, but we already knew that.

Richard Dawkins wrote "The Selfish Gene" which covers a lot of the characteristics of memes.

A meme  is "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture." A meme acts as a unit for carrying ideas, symbols, or practices that can be transmitted from one mind to
another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable
phenomena. They are imitators.

[just_me_karen]

Why should she retract what is true, poddy?

[just_me_karen]

Hi windrake. He's going to win. He's popular. He has real policies that will benefit Australians and take us into a stronger future.

Yes, he's going to win 🙂

[poison_ivys_pen]

Poddy, it's also a violation of the community values to 'threaten' to report someone.

[the_great_she_elephant]

If Labor revolted, wouldn't the opposition accuse them of stealing their policies - after all, they've been pretty revolting for as long as I can remember

[freakiness]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
If Labor revolted, wouldn't the opposition accuse them of stealing their policies - after all, they've been pretty revolting for as long as I can remember

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They were all counting on Labor supporters dumping them after Gillard got dumped. Looks like it backfired badly.

[spotweldersfriend]

Latest Nielsen survey shows a 10% jump in Labors approval rating.

[spotweldersfriend]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Hitler was like this if I remember my history correctly, had this power over people like we see on this forum....

“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.” 
― Adolf Hitler

what else...he had a win at any cost attitude,he did away with unions and desired to make 'the perfect race' ..... he caused so much pain and horror 

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He did away with unions eh? Sounds a lot like liberal policy.

[monman12]

"He did away with unions eh? Sounds a lot like liberal policy."

Exerpts from Mein Kampf:-
"Before everything else, the trades unions are necessary as building stones for the future economic parliament, which will be made up of chambers representing the various professions and occupations.
 I am convinced that we cannot possibly dispense with the trades unions. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions in the economic life of the nation."

In 1928, the equivalent of 20,339,000 working days had been lost as a result of strikes. In 1930, 4,029,000 days had been lost. In 1933, it was just 96,000 ,

Hitler replaced all the unions with  2 large organisations, GLF & DAF,  which certainly reduced "days lost' (by intimidation)  and  also reduced inflation thus allowing a money pool necessary to fund  the looming war.

I sometimes think that the CFMEU "manual"  has copied  a few pages from the "Stormtroopers handbook"

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[daydream**believer]

"So smithie, are you daydream**believer? I reckon people who use second IDs to troll (on my thread, check recent posts) are loosers [sic]. And weak.

Or is that the norm for your ilk, and if so, should everyone do it?"

So i was just sent a message telling me of this post else i would never of seen it as i cant stand political threads.

I am not any other id. This is my only posting id and has been the only id used on the boards for about 6 years now.

Dont involve me in your tiffs and dont accuse me of being any other id