Labor should revolt, where are they? where's the outrage for this?

[silverfaun]

Where are they? all the Labor supporters on here? I haven't heard a peep, not a whimper about the sweeping changes Rudd wants to make to the democracy of the parliament.

Is it the same as the cowardly cringing that went on, the sickening acquiescence to the crushing discrimination laws Roxon wanted or the attack on the freedom of the press & curtailing of our freedom of speech Conroy wanted that all the luvvies supported.

To their shame they supported them & then not a word when the hammer finally dropped on these 2 bills & Labor abandoned them.

Where are the screams & howls of protest at what Rudd wants to do, where are the true believers who believe in the power of their collective strength & the rights of the rank & file? to ensconce himself into the leadership that the party may never be able to move him from unless they cross the floor en masse & bring him & any future leaders down on the floor of the Parliament their only option?.

Is this the price Labor are willing to pay to win just 1 election, is this the high price to our democratic parliamentary values they are willing to abrogate just to cling onto one more term?

Are all Labor supporters on here going to sit quiet & say nothing about this. Where's the outrage about this abomination or is just whinging about perceived sexism all they're good for these days or pathetic nit picking.

"Excerpt from main article:

Added to this short-term, deeply political decision-making is the undeniable enjoyment Rudd would get in watching colleagues vote for a change of party rules that effectively amounted to a repudiation of their collective action in ousting him back in 2010. One final kick in the teeth for Gillard and the so-called faceless men, as it were.

This reform also puts the Labor Party at the potential mercy of an individual leader (ironic for the party of the collective workers), and it even increases the likelihood of a party split at some time in the future. For example, if one major faction within the Labor Party continued to support a PM it would be highly unlikely that the remainder of the party would be able to collectively achieve the 75 per cent quota required to oust the leader.

This is just one of a raft of unintended consequences Labor is exposing itself to

.

Theoretically the reform Rudd wants his caucus to endorse means voters could keep on re-electing a leader of the Labor Party who enjoyed the support of only one-quarter of its parliamentary team, even though that same leader pursued policies totally at odds with the brand of the party they led."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/sweeping-powers-create-dictatorship/story-e6frg6zo-122667855...

[i-need-a-martini]

So let me get this straight.

Everyone else in the country, including the Liberal Party, agree that this change is an ecellent idea and much fairer but two lone numbskull (Gibbons and the autor of this article) thinks it's not on?

And after years of bleating on (and ON AND ON!!!) about how the unions have too much control of the decision making, Rudd has effectively granted you a wish and  rendered unions powerless in selecting who runs a country?

And you're still not happoy?

Is it because there is nothing else to complain about given Rudds strong performance at the moment so you are clutching at straws?

Yes, I think so.

[silverfaun]

I'm sure you didn't read the article or my comments on it. Please read the article & my comments & give me a considered  opinion rather than a serve.

Or do you want a person of Rudds character to have total control of the Labor party because that's what you intimated & you think that's a good idea do you?

[spotweldersfriend]

The only dictatorship in this country is at News Corp.

[catsnknots]

Do you know who helped write the reforms to the Labor party??? 

hahahahaha

It really is going to be Rudds Party.... 

roflmao

and people think he is a changed man..... 

hehehehehe

OMG... suckered in people... 

 Kevin Rudd's eldest son, a lawyer, was involved in drafting of the reforms of the Labor Party that t...

[*new2vintage]

Labor and the Liberals are revolting ! 

[i-need-a-martini]

I read what I could of the article however it is subsription only and I don't subsribe to rubbish like The Australian.

And I read your comments. And found nothing of substance there other than broad statements about how you think the Labor Party supporters should behave in light of your own narrow beliefs. You wonder when no-one bothers with your rants when all you are good for is negative (that's oh-so-Liberal!) comments such as "sickening acquiescence"; "true believers"; "cowardly cringing", "just whinging" or  "pathetic nit picking"

You want us the "scream and howl"? What on earth for? We aren't anything like the shrieking  and hysterical Liberal Party non-intellectual fearmongerers.

But overall I think you have no idea what the reforms actually mean. Perhaps you should do some homework before publishing the skewed opinions of one man who subsitutes words like 'democracy' with 'factions' or who continues to talk about 'faceless men' when in fact they have all been effectively exposed and are no longer faceless.

The uproar this change has caused in the union movement should give you a clear indication what this reform is all about. Perhaps you should start you homework on this subject? And in fact, if I recall correctly John Howard made two attempts to create the same reform within the Liberal Party whilst he was PM.

So what is your point exactly? 

How is this reform so much worse than the Labor Party rules of yesterday?

Why do you think Australians WOULDN'T agree with these reforms?

[izabsmiling]

 Where's the outrage about this abomination or is just whinging about perceived sexism all they're good for these days or pathetic nit picking.

do you honestly believe that these sorts of comments does the Liberal party any favours ?

Is it at all possible to take the attack out of politics and get down to what's important ...the attack the other side has gone on too long ...we all need to focus on Policies ...there is an election ahead.

When attack is all that seems to be being offered it seems to indicate that there isn't anything of real substance to support a Party

[i-need-a-martini]

Abbott leads by example Iza.

So aggressive name calling and negative insults is all they know.

[i-need-a-martini]

Altho it will be interesting to see how Abbott changes his attitutude.

That is, if we EVER see him come out of hiding. Where the heck is he??