Labor should revolt, where are they? where's the outrage for this?

[silverfaun]

Where are they? all the Labor supporters on here? I haven't heard a peep, not a whimper about the sweeping changes Rudd wants to make to the democracy of the parliament.

Is it the same as the cowardly cringing that went on, the sickening acquiescence to the crushing discrimination laws Roxon wanted or the attack on the freedom of the press & curtailing of our freedom of speech Conroy wanted that all the luvvies supported.

To their shame they supported them & then not a word when the hammer finally dropped on these 2 bills & Labor abandoned them.

Where are the screams & howls of protest at what Rudd wants to do, where are the true believers who believe in the power of their collective strength & the rights of the rank & file? to ensconce himself into the leadership that the party may never be able to move him from unless they cross the floor en masse & bring him & any future leaders down on the floor of the Parliament their only option?.

Is this the price Labor are willing to pay to win just 1 election, is this the high price to our democratic parliamentary values they are willing to abrogate just to cling onto one more term?

Are all Labor supporters on here going to sit quiet & say nothing about this. Where's the outrage about this abomination or is just whinging about perceived sexism all they're good for these days or pathetic nit picking.

"Excerpt from main article:

Added to this short-term, deeply political decision-making is the undeniable enjoyment Rudd would get in watching colleagues vote for a change of party rules that effectively amounted to a repudiation of their collective action in ousting him back in 2010. One final kick in the teeth for Gillard and the so-called faceless men, as it were.

This reform also puts the Labor Party at the potential mercy of an individual leader (ironic for the party of the collective workers), and it even increases the likelihood of a party split at some time in the future. For example, if one major faction within the Labor Party continued to support a PM it would be highly unlikely that the remainder of the party would be able to collectively achieve the 75 per cent quota required to oust the leader.

This is just one of a raft of unintended consequences Labor is exposing itself to

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Theoretically the reform Rudd wants his caucus to endorse means voters could keep on re-electing a leader of the Labor Party who enjoyed the support of only one-quarter of its parliamentary team, even though that same leader pursued policies totally at odds with the brand of the party they led."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/sweeping-powers-create-dictatorship/story-e6frg6zo-122667855...

[izabsmiling]

do all 'right' thinking people think the same ?

[i-need-a-martini]

Well don't maintain your rage because the unions will  do it for you, they will never allow this megolamaniac to get this much power & so they shouldn't.

And OMG!! LOL!!!

So now it IS ok for the unions to have the power to boot our poloticians out???

But a few weeks ago, it was NOT ok for Gillard to be PM because apparently she was in deep with the unions?

And you seriously expect me to debate you on your ping pong opinions?

Like I said earlier - it seems to me that you guys are desparately clutching at straws. And picking the short straws at that lol.

[izabsmiling]

the part of the opening post I mentioned is by the opening poster ? Is that correct ? 

[i-need-a-martini]

Yes Iza. It has his stamp of aggressiveness written all over it.

[freakiness]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Well don't maintain your rage because the unions will  do it for you, they will never allow this megolamaniac to get this much power & so they shouldn't.

And OMG!! LOL!!!

So now it IS ok for the unions to have the power to boot our poloticians out???

But a few weeks ago, it was NOT ok for Gillard to be PM because apparently she was in deep with the unions?

And you seriously expect me to debate you on your ping pong opinions?

Like I said earlier - it seems to me that you guys are desparately clutching at straws. And picking the short straws at that lol.

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Bizarre isn't it.

Meanwhile they slam the government for daring to review media rules and seemingly don't have a problem with Uncle Rupe having complete control of our media.  I'd love to hear their defence of his behaviour in the UK, hanging his staff out to dry while telling porkies and breaking the law to protect his own empire.

[izabsmiling]

Thanks Martini .That's how I thought it was when I first commented but later comments suggested that part may have been written by 

PETER VAN ONSELEN.

Apologies to Peter .I'd imagine he'd not want to own those words 

[i-need-a-martini]

I don't think they have any idea what they are talking about.

Just clutching at straws....

[silverfaun]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

I'm sorry SF, I see that there is a link .

You mentioned that you gave your comments on the article ...so did I.The first thing that stands out is the slagging off of Labor supporters .

Being able to comment is democratic 

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I accept your comments & also accept your right of reply  & thank you for acknowledging that there is a link on my post. I thought I'd entered a parallel universe because nobody referenced  the body of the article which is a Professor of Politics educated opinion of the so called reforms.

I did refer back to the acceptance of the toxic Roxon & Conroy bills that no Labor supporter on here seemed to have a problem with. Yes my language probably is insulting  to the Labor supporters on here but the truth is never palatable & the medicine is bitter.

[lakeland27]

more fear. hey MM check out a few safe LNP seats.. (Indi where local member Sophie Mirabella hadn't lived in until being 'parachuted in' ) there are more if you care to investicate further. as for the seat of Lawler , the preselection process will sort out any disputes. until then its speculation (unless i decide to leak it in advance)

[freakiness]

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@cats_back_2013 wrote:

Do you know who helped write the reforms to the Labor party??? 

hahahahaha

It really is going to be Rudds Party.... 

roflmao

and people think he is a changed man..... 

hehehehehe

OMG... suckered in people... 

 Kevin Rudd's eldest son, a lawyer, was involved in drafting of the reforms of the Labor Party that t...

From the link posted:

News Limited also reports on Saturday that Kevin Rudd's eldest son, a lawyer, was involved in drafting of the reforms of the Labor Party that the prime minister announced on Monday.

The paper says the younger Rudd has quickly become a valuable member of the team and his contribution is being seen as "impressive".

"He is very smart, and is of enormous value to us, for many reasons," one senior insider said.

Mr Rudd said his son, who has just finished three years working with Clayton Utz in commercial arbitration, would play a major role in the government's election campaign.

Well I'll be stoofed. He is qualified for the job and has recent relavent experience.  All has been declared, no secrets there so what exactly is the problem?

If the family ties are the problem you'd better write to all the LNP members who employ family members and express your outrage.  After all what's good for one is surelty good for all. 

We have a leader of Opposition who is in politics because his father was. 

If the LNP actually spent as much time and effort on devising and selling policies they migh be better off. At the moment all they can do is attempt to trash Labor, which after a while makes them appear to be the dumbos of the block.