Living with the Enemy on SBS

[ufo_investigations]

I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS.  The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.

What did I learn?

- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).

- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).

- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.

- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.

- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.

- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.

- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?

- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@azureline** wrote:

a glaringly obvious mistake you have made.......................... The word catholic literally means "universal.

Nothing to with The Roman Catholic Church................ all Christian Churches use it.

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No, not all Christian churches use it.

And what about the other comments above? Trinity etc.

[azureline**]

what about them?

This thread isn't about the Trinity.

most Christian Churches then, those who say the Apostle's Creed.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@azureline** wrote:

what about them?

This thread isn't about the Trinity.

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ok, so you'll respond when you think you have the upper hand, but when I ask you something that you CAN'T answer , it's "this thread is not about the Trinity".

OK, you win.

by the way, I saw that program about the man staying with the muslim family too - very well staged I thought.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Catholicism says no such thing about halal food. That is absurd.

The Bible does say very specifically however: “If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience” (1 Cor 10:27). 

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perfect example of how people pick and choose

passages from their holy books.  the passage as

ufo pointed out continues -

But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it"

within all religions there are  those who interpret their

books differently. there are liberal and conservative muslims

as there are liberal and conservative  catholics and other christians.

it would be like telling muslims they should drink alcohol

because the koran doesnt forbid it.  it would be like saying

their beliefs are absurd.

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But halal does not mean that an animal is sacrificed. So I don't get what the rest of the passage is relevent to in this discussion?

And many muslims do drink alchohol.

[ufo_investigations]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Catholicism says no such thing about halal food. That is absurd.

The Bible does say very specifically however: “If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience” (1 Cor 10:27). 

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perfect example of how people pick and choose

passages from their holy books.  the passage as

ufo pointed out continues -

But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it"

within all religions there are  those who interpret their

books differently. there are liberal and conservative muslims

as there are liberal and conservative  catholics and other christians.

it would be like telling muslims they should drink alcohol

because the koran doesnt forbid it.  it would be like saying

their beliefs are absurd.

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But halal does not mean that an animal is sacrificed. So I don't get what the rest of the passage is relevent to in this discussion?

And many muslims do drink alchohol.

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Meaning of Sacrifice (OXFORD DICTIONARY)

(NOUN)
An act of slaughtering an animal or person or surrendering a possession as an offering to a deity: they offer sacrifices to the spirits [mass noun]: the ancient laws of animal sacrifice

An offering to a deity means an offer to a god. I don't bow down to or recognise false gods.

You can't change what is written in the Bible. The 10 Commandments were written in stone by God and it clearly states what it states.

[azureline**]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

what about them?

This thread isn't about the Trinity.

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ok, so you'll respond when you think you have the upper hand, but when I ask you something that you CAN'T answer , it's "this thread is not about the Trinity".

OK, you win.

by the way, I saw that program about the man staying with the muslim family too - very well staged I thought.

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upper hand?? at no time do I ever feel I have the upper hand......I am not, nor do I profess to be, a Religious Scholar. My knowledge is from a lifetime of learning as a student and as a member of the Catholic Church. I have already been reminded what this thread is about, merely trying to return it to that subject.

If you want a chat about the Trinity, start one.

However, I am off to shower, eat and sleep. I do not have the answers you are seeking.

My faith is my own.

[ufo_investigations]

Once a meal is halalized it no longer is valid for me to eat because it is in breach of the "1st Commandment" and "1 Corinthians Chapter 10". This is why many Christians don't eat halal, kosher or foods blessed by satanic rituals etc.

This is why when I go shopping I check all the labelling to ensure no rituals to false gods exist and I do not buy from companies that support false gods.

[azureline**]

Once a meal is permitted?

what about chocolate? and bread?

[ufo_investigations]

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@azureline** wrote:

Once a meal is permitted?

what about chocolate? and bread?

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It doesn't matter what type of food it is, if it is in the name of a false god I wont buy it.

[azureline**]

Who sacrifices chocolate?