Living with the Enemy on SBS

[ufo_investigations]

I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS.  The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.

What did I learn?

- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).

- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).

- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.

- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.

- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.

- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.

- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?

- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.

[bushies.girl]

Halal slaughtered animals an are NOT stunned before their throat is cut, they are in agony before they die, it's disgusting 😞

[i-need-a-martini]

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

Why are you worried about this anyway? I don't buy halal chocolate but the muslims will so what is the problem?

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I'm not worried about it. I'll eat anything. You seem to be very worried about it though.

But your whole argument is that halal = food that is sacrificed to another (non Catholic) God and therfore is a sin to eat.

But if the definition of sacrifice is that an animal is slaughtered as an offering, then how can chocolate (which is not an animal) be slaughtered in order for it to halal?

How can choclate be a sin to eat if it is labelled halal? .

My concern is that you are creating an argument when you don't seem to have a clear understanding of the meanings that you are basing your argument on.

I don't care if you eat chocolate or not. The same would apply to any halal product.

For example, an apple is halal. Do you eat apples?

[i-need-a-martini]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

Halal slaughtered animals an are NOT stunned before their throat is cut, they are in agony before they die, it's disgusting 😞

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Is this the way all halal and kosher meat is prepared? 

(A little fact checking would be wise before responding)

[bushies.girl]

http://www.halalchoices.com.au/what_is_halal.html

Watch the video of the cattle being slaughtered!

[i-need-a-martini]

I am also keen to know where the outrage is for kosher meat slaughter?

For whilst the muslims accept stunning prior to killing (which is the way non-halal meat is killed BTW), Jews do not accept stunning at all. So the vast majority of animal slaughters without stunning first in this country are not halal slaughters but are kosher slaughters.

I can't recall ever seeing one single thread on here decrying kosher practices as barbaric. Funny that...

[bushies.girl]

I dont find it funny at all .... If you want a thread then start one

[i-need-a-martini]

That isn't reaserch bushie.

You realise that HalalChoices is not a muslim educational website but an anti muslim propaganda site right?

In Australia (as is the case in all Western countries) it is ILLEGAL to slaughter any animal without stunning them first.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@bushies.girl wrote:
I dont find it funny at all .... If you want a thread then start one

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You somehow managed to miss the point I think.

I don't want a thread on either topic. This one has been particularly done to death and made all the worse by ignorant comments about practices that are imagined or perceived but factually incorrect.

[bushies.girl]

When people end a sentence using the word "right" I end the conversation

[rabbitearbandicoot]

halal ? why are we subject to sharia law in Australia? To raise funds from the fees that companies have to pay to the muslim bodies for certification. where does all that money go, I wonder?

all chickens / turkeys / ducks etc are halal ie throat slit and hung upside down to drain blood. Imagine their death next time you eat chicken.