Living with the Enemy on SBS

I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS.  The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.

 

What did I learn?

 

- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).

- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).

- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.

- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.

- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.

- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.

- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?

- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.

 

 

 

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

@katydidthat wrote:
The link it to last night'sLateline where the interviewee is an Australian Muslim. It's a bit argumentative, but worth watching or listening to. I'd be very interested in comments.

considering he represents hizb ut-tahrir -

not surprised at his views. 

 

although for some reason i was hoping

he would at least be critical  about the image

of the australian boy holding severed heads

like trophies but nope.

 

 

i think it is naive to think he is an idiot.


I think Emma should have stopped the interview as soon as it became obvious the man was not going to answer questions.

Made himself look to be an idiot, imo (maybe he is)  and did other Muslims a disservice.

I had to stop watching as it was so annoying BUT I don't think Emma did a good job of it either.

 

I didn't say he is an idiot.

I have watched it again and decided that he thought (maybe justifiably)  that he was not there to answer those particular questions but to give his views about something he was passionate about.

Perhaps Emma misrepresented her plans?

It could have been any scenario...................

 

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EMMA ALBERICI: People like community leaders here in Australia like Dr Jamal Rifi, who has publicly condemned the actions of Islamic State. Why won't you do the same?

 

transcript:

 

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4103227.htm

 

 

 

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@karliandjacko wrote:

@katydidthat wrote:
Julia, I don't mean to pick on you ... but would value your opinion (and the opinion of others) ... I understand that to behead someone and video it and publish it is horrendous ... but are the beheaded hostages just as dead as the civilians in Syria, Iraq, Gaza and elsewhere?

I'm curious about why we're outraged by ISIS beheadings but not the ones carried out by our friends, the Saudis?


ISIS is a terrorist group.

 

In Saudi Arabia the death penalty can be imposed for a wide range of offences, including murder, rape, false prophecy, blasphemy, armed robbery, repeated drug use, apostasy, adultery, witchcraft and sorcery and can be carried out by beheading with a sword, or more rarely by firing squad, and sometimes by stoning. All in the name of the Holy Book, the koran.

 

 

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The report said women had been treated particularly harshly with IS fighters attacking and killing female doctors and lawyers, among other professionals.

 

Yet, if those people decide to run for their lives and make it to Australia we lock them up and want to send them back.

 

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@am*3 wrote:

@ufo_investigations wrote:

re: "So how does UFOs justify his comment that I will go to hell for eating it because apparently I have worshipped another God?"

 

There is only One God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.


Atheists wouldn't agree with that.


They have to agree otherwise the offence of "Eternal Sin" is committed and they will end up in hell forever!

 

The Catholic Church, as well as the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox churches believe blasphemy against the Holy Spirit to be an unforgivable sin (i.e., eternal sin). 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin

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Exodus – Chapter 20 THE FIRST COMMANDMENT
I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them.

1 Corinthians - Chapter 10
If an unbeliever invites you to a meal, go if you want to, and eat whatever is put before you; you need not ask questions of conscience first. But if someone says to you, 'This food has been offered in sacrifice,' do not eat it.

 

You say this in every post you make.I'm confused;  are we to assume it has become  your single response to all questions regarding Life the Universe and Everything?

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@katydidthat wrote:
Vegemite is certified as Halal.

I realise that. So if we aren't Catholics and we eat vegemite we won't go to hell.

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It reads pretty clear to me I don't know what is confusing about it.

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I posted this in the wrong thread before.

 

***ufo wrote: 1 Corinthians - Chapter 10
If an unbeliever invites you to a meal, go if you want to, and eat whatever is put before you; you need not ask questions of conscience first. But if someone says to you, 'This food has been offered in sacrifice,' do not eat it.

 

Catholics and Halal meat

 

By Fr John Flader

30 January, 2011

 

FIRSTLY we should clarify what we mean by halal meat.

The word “halal” in Arabic means simply “lawful” and thus halal foods are those which are considered lawful for Muslims to eat. “Halal” is distinguished from “haraam” foods, which are forbidden.

Among the latter are pork, blood, animals that have been strangled or beaten to death, alcohol, meat that has not been prepared in the proper way, etc.

For meat to be halal the animal must be killed in a particular way. It must have its throat slit, and the person killing it must face Mecca and invoke the name of Allah,
or God.

When an abattoir can demonstrate that it follows this procedure, it may receive a certificate from the Muslim authorities as a halal certified site. Wherever possible,
Muslims eat only halal foods.

Where does this leave Catholics? Can we eat such foods? The first thing we should ask is whether Scripture has anything to say about the matter. In fact it does. In the Acts of the Apostles we read about the so-called Council of Jerusalem, in which the apostles and elders gathered to decide what to impose on the Gentiles who had converted to Christianity in Antioch.

Among other things they told these converts that they were to “abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled” (Acts 15:29).

Jews, like Muslims, regarded blood as the very life of the animal and as such it belonged to God alone. Hence they did not eat meat that had been strangled, since it would have the blood in it.

But why did the early Christians follow these Jewish practices? It must be remembered that these were the early days of Christianity and the first generation of Christians was still alive.

Most of them were converts from Judaism, and it is natural that they would have felt a strong repugnance at the thought of eating meat with the blood in it, since this was prohibited by Jewish law (cf. Lev 17:10ff). It is probable that for some time they also abstained from pork, which Jews did not eat.

As regards food that had been offered to idols, St Paul writes that since “an idol has no real existence” and “there is no God but one”, there is nothing wrong with eating such food (1 Cor 8:4).

Nonetheless, since some Christians may be weak in conscience and think it is sinful to eat such food, others when in their company should abstain from eating lest they cause their brothers to eat as well and go against their conscience. He writes: “Therefore, if food is a cause of my brother’s falling, I will never eat meat, lest I cause my brother to fall” (cf. 1 Cor 8:13).

It is probably for this reason that the Council of Jerusalem forbade the Gentile converts to each such food. St Paul sums up: “Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do” (1 Cor 8:8).

Two chapters later St Paul confronts today’s issue of halal food more directly, based on his earlier pronouncement that such food may be eaten without any qualms of conscience.

As regards whether Christians should be careful not to buy certain foods at the market he writes: “Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience” (1 Cor 10:25).

And with respect to what to do when invited to the home of an unbeliever, he advises:*** If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience” (1 Cor 10:27). That would apply today to accepting an invitation to eat with a Muslim.

In summary, it is clear that there is nothing in the Scriptures against Christians eating halal meat. The question of meat “sacrificed to idols” does not apply, even though not even that would present a problem, since halal meat is offered to Allah, the one God worshipped by Muslims, Jews and Christians.



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Nope you have it all wrong and I have explained it all before in this thread. Go back and read.

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