Living with the Enemy on SBS

[ufo_investigations]

I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS.  The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.

What did I learn?

- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).

- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).

- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.

- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.

- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.

- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.

- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?

- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.

[i-need-a-martini]

Not all Cadburys is halal. And not all halal products carry a sticker. In fact most halal products do not carry a sticker - you need to go on their websites to get this information along with other information.

[the_great_she_elephant]

I think to call God "It" would be a trifle disrespectful.

Why?

[karliandjacko]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

so, what's the Catholic God's name?

Why on earth would anyone, Catholic or otherwise, feel it necessary to give God a name - unless of course they are trying to create an image of "him" in their own likeness.

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it's not a matter of anyone giving him a name - he already HAS a name.

and PLEASE ... let's not get stuck on HE /SHE etc

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I'm not stuck on the HE/SHEaspect  I'm stuck on the absurdity of trying to ascribe a gender OF ANY KIND to something which has no physical form - human or otherwise - and obviously no gender WHATSOEVER.

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as I have said MANY times - you are correct there is NO GENDER in the spirit world - but I think to call God "It" would be a trifle disrespectful.

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Some would say accusing those who are gay of having mental illness would be disrespectful.

[iapetus_rocks]

I have read this thread and also the thread re should the burqa be banned . . . .

and what i have noticed is that there is an appalling ignorance here about what Islam is and what it teaches.

I'll ask this again since no one answered me. "How many people here have read even one page of the Koran?" How many people here know what Islam preaches and how Islam regards other religions?

And yet everyone here has a point of view, even if it is an uninformed one.

How many people here understand the position of Islam with regards to women and women's rights? How many people here understand the position of Islam with regard to the many other world religions?

Anyone here who says they understand but admits to not having read even one single page of the Koran, the Hadith or the Sunna, are arguing from an untenable position. A position of ignorance and maybe even prejudice . . even if that prejudice is positive with regard to Islam.

No one even seemed to notice when I posted way back above that Islam condemns Christianity and their church for worshiping a polytheistic god. (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)  . . they hate that and condemn it many times in their scriptures.

There exists a gulf of huge proportions between the religion of Islam and all other religions on this earth; and the atheists are included in Islam's condemnation and abhorrence of those who refuse to follow Islam.

"It is written" . . .  now we've all heard that phrase before, even if in some very old movies, where Douglas Fairbanks jr. swaggers and struts his stuff.

Yes, many things are "written" in Islam. And how many people here who have opinions, even understand just what they have opinions about?

[azureline**]

https://www.cadbury.com.au/products/halal-products.aspx

Someone has set up a petition to boycott Steggles because their chicken is Halal. Hope they consider the employees and the destruction of the economy. Some of the reason's some gave defy belief and many are just laughable.

[i-need-a-martini]

No one even seemed to notice when I posted way back above that Islam condemns Christianity and their church for worshiping a polytheistic god. (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)  . . they hate that and condemn it many time in their scriptures.

A bit like the way the Bible condemns all other religions?

Yes you are right. People ARE ignorant.

[azureline**]

I have read quite a bit more than 1 page of the Quran.............

no one here is obliged to answer your question though.

[iapetus_rocks]

No one is obliged to answer my question. . . It's just that it's difficult to accept any arguments for or against, from those who remain ignorant from choice, or even from laziness.

[iapetus_rocks]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

No one even seemed to notice when I posted way back above that Islam condemns Christianity and their church for worshiping a polytheistic god. (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)  . . they hate that and condemn it many time in their scriptures.

A bit like the way the Bible condemns all other religions?

Yes you are right. People ARE ignorant.

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Why bring the Bible into this, as if the bad things written in the Bible somehow justify the bad and confrontative things written in the Koran?

Sure the Bible has a lot of criticism to answer, but it's a red herring to try to distract us with comparisons. Take each scritpture on it's own merits.

And at the moment, this seems to be (apologies to Boris) a discussion about Islam and what it teaches.

[bushies.girl]

If they eat so little meat why is there such a huge live trade export? Where I used to live. the live trade ships came into port regularly. They are many storeys high and carry 1000's of sheep. I have seen the conditions the sheep are squashed into, many of them die horrible deaths at sea. NO animal should have to endure this for anyone's religion 😞