London Bridge incident 'here we go again'

[davidc4430]

Van veers onto footpath, people stabbed

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-04/van-veers-onto-london-bridge-footpath,-people-stabbed/8587538

[jimmy*part4]

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@tezza2844 wrote:

@farnsworth4sale wrote:

"financial based than terror related Not at all.

It's because prior to 9/11 terror attacks weren't as frequent, weren't on the front page just about every week. People from Saudi Arabia can be vetted, identified, not those other 6 countries.

They are usually vetted identified for entry into the US by US Authorites. Terror attacks were very frequent before 9/11, although not on the same scale. The 9/11 bombers all legally entered the US and undertook training in areas that they then used in the suicide flights

That's how a 21 year old (that should be defending his homeland) can falsely claim he's 15, get benefits and go to high school in another country.

I've no idea what this is about but I would be surprised if a "15year old" could get benefits in any country.

Strange how every thread about these terror attacks ALWAYS focus on Trumps tweets instead of the religion where the blame lies. That never seems to get mentioned....never.

Terror attacks are not only carried out by religious fanatics, they are carried out by nutters with any sort of grievances against some one else, perhaps you have not heard of the IRA or the Red Liberation army or the Ustaše, or even religions against other religions, country against country. As for focusing on Trump tweets, how can you expect  tweets from this drongo not to be ridiculed.

Also "funny" no one....NO ONE, said a single thing when 2 previous Presidents said the same exact things.

Clinton and Obama and even Bush Jnr (in some strange ways) did something sensible and achievable about the entry problem of possible terrorist people trying to enter the US, not just Muslims (and Mexicans).

Can you say double standards?

Yep

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"They are usually vetted identified for entry into the US by US Authorites."

Prior to 9/11 the vetting process was much looser.

"Terror attacks were very frequent before 9/11"

Really? Because I can recall about 6 of them total. Since Europe has been overrun they're becoming more and more frequent, and that pace will continue. Over the last few years about once a week worldwide.

"The 9/11 bombers all legally entered the US and undertook training in areas that they then used in the suicide flights"

That's why I said "prior to 9/11". That day changed everything.

"perhaps you have not heard of the IRA or the Red Liberation army or the Ustaše"

While they might be threat to each other, I've not heard about them attacking innocent folks in other countries.

Besides, that's the typical "look over here" lefty distraction. This thread isn't about them.

"As for focusing on Trump tweets, how can you expect  tweets from this drongo not to be ridiculed."

That's your opinion. I happen to like him and his "tweets". If not for the hypocritical lefties he'd have accomplished a whole lot more. First 100 days....cut spending by $100 billion. Obama....increased by $70 billion. Trump, stocks through the roof. Obama....stocks tanking left and right.

"Clinton and Obama and even Bush Jnr (in some strange ways) did something sensible and achievable about the entry problem of possible terrorist people trying to enter the US, not just Muslims (and Mexicans)."

Nice try. Except the bans Clinton and Bush enacted affected the same exact people....muslims And yes mexicans too. Although while letting them free flow through the border obama deported more than the previous administrations.

"I've no idea what this is about but I would be surprised if a "15year old" could get benefits in any country."

No offence but I'm guessing there is a lot you don't know if it doesn't fit your agenda. I'd say this applies to all lefties. I can't think of the expression ATM, but it's along the lines of intentional blindness. Like your reply above...ignoring the facts I posted, and in those videos (which could have verified by skimming them). Then the "look over here" reply. That tactic is nauseating.

"Yep"

Oh yeah! ; )

[jimmy*part4]

I have yet to post proof of anything someone from the left has scoffed at and/or denied, and had them admit they were wrong. But what the hell, lol.

"I've no idea what this is about but I would be surprised if a "15year old" could get benefits in any country."

Well they do. Thousands of them. People from those 6 countries that Trump wants a travel ban on....these people are so impossible to determine who they are they are able to impersonate children.

Here are some child refugees......and yes, they will recieve benefits and sent to schools with other children their "age". 

[tezza2844]

Really? Because I can recall about 6 of them total. Since Europe has been overrun they're becoming more and more frequent, and that pace will continue. Over the last few years about once a week worldwide

You seem to have lived a very very sheltered life. If you can only recall about six terrorist attacks prior to 9/11 then you should read the following, just for a start:

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/global-terrorist-attacks-past-20-years-in-maps-2017-5?r=US&IR=T#/....

I don’t think that Business Insider Australia would be considered a leftist organization, but then they seem to be a bit more aware of world events than yourself and not on the extreme right.

While they might be threat to each other, I've not heard about them attacking innocent folks in other countries. Besides, that's the typical "look over here" lefty distraction. This thread isn't about them

. These groups were not a threat to each other, some of these groups worked together, and if you have not heard of them attacking innocent folk in other countries you are sadly very ignorant of the likes of the IRA’s London bombings. You should accept the fact that there is whole new world out there for Americans to know about. America or more specifically the US of A should understand that they are not the world just part of it.

That's your opinion. I happen to like him and his "tweets". If not for the hypocritical lefties he'd have accomplished a whole lot more. First 100 days....cut spending by $100 billion. Obama....increased by $70 billion. Trump, stocks through the roof. Obama....stocks tanking left and right.

Trump has achieved very little in his first 100 days, although he has managed to insult and belittle just about every European country and do irreparable damage in his effort to make America(USA) great again. However, I do like your absolute blind faith in Trumps tweets, it makes me understand how Americans “elected” the drongo in the first place. Like the lefties there many in the Republican Party that believe in his self-appraisal of his success is grossly over stated and false.

No offence but I'm guessing there is a lot you don't know if it doesn't fit your agenda. I'd say this applies to all lefties. I can't think of the expression ATM, but it's along the lines of intentional blindness. Like your reply above...ignoring the facts I posted, and in those videos (which could have verified by skimming them). Then the "look over here" reply. That tactic is nauseating.

No offence taken, but, then I don’t necessarily, consider myself a lefty or have a specific agenda. I do find assuming that everyone who disagrees with your views is a leftie  is nauseating. I don’t blindly accept all that politicians of any ilk try to force down throat no matter how catchy,attractive or popular they may seem. As for religion, I gave up on that years ago. The videos you put up are made up by groups who have an agenda, which apparently blend in with your views.

[jimmy*part4]

"You seem to have lived a very very sheltered life. If you can only recall about six terrorist attacks prior to 9/11 then you should read the following, just for a start:

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/global-terrorist-attacks-past-20-years-in-maps-2017-5?r=US&IR=T#/...."

I didn't pay much attention to politics back then, true. Are you trying to say that attacks from muslims haven't increased a tremendous amount? Either way you're trying to make this about Trump, again.

So your point is taken...the ban on people coming in from muslim countries should have been in place all along. I'm all for it. They don't want to assimilate and they never will.

"I don’t think that Business Insider Australia would be considered a leftist organization, but then they seem to be a bit more aware of world events than yourself and not on the extreme right."

Being a news organization I hope so, lol.

"These groups were not a threat to each other, some of these groups worked together, and if you have not heard of them attacking innocent folk in other countries you are sadly very ignorant of the likes of the IRA’s London bombings."

Again with the IRA?!  Go start a thread about the IRA, this thread is about another muslim attack. And more to come.

And once again, in true lefty fashion, you've disregarded every legitimate point I've made, like grown men pretending to be children instead in their home country defending it and pointed elsewhere. Wasted time.

*rolls eyes*

[tezza2844]

you've disregarded every legitimate point I've made...?

I take it that means extremist Muslims attacks on Europeans/US of A are terrible but attacks on other Muslims around the world are not terrible or newsworthy and should be ignored. There's been terrorist groups going round for centuries blowing up every thing in sight ( Guy Fawkes ring any bells)if they think it will further their goals. I can of think a person named Timothy McVeigh murdered  168 people and injured over 600, he entered the US by birth, terrorist do not care where they come from or where they go to kill, the believe they will achieve "something" by their actions

[tezza2844]

And once again, in true lefty fashion, you've disregarded every legitimate point I've made, like grown men pretending to be children instead in their home country defending it and pointed elsewhere. Wasted time.

*rolls eyes*

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And once again, in true extremist fashion, you regard anyone who disagree with you as a leftie.

[jimmy*part4]

I'm not the least bit concerned about anyone from any other group.

So when the next muslim group kills more people in the most horrific fashion they can think of, it's because of people like you that give them the breathing room they need to operate.

In "true extremist fashion", blindly defending them. So don't forget...god forbid, when it's hits close to home who to blame....yourself.

Edit: BTW, it's your children and grandchildren who are going a heavy price for "your" short-sightedness.

[the_great_she_elephant]

No offence but I'm guessing there is a lot you don't know if it doesn't fit your agenda. I'd say this applies to all lefties.

No, It applies to some people from both sides of the political debate. No side has a monopoly on truth and integrity and to suggest that only those who subscribe to one particular set of political beliefs understand anything about world events is both foolish and arrogant

[springyzone]

The way I see it is every group/nationality on earth has been at loggerheads at some time in history & we could spend all day and night countering with. "Yes, but they/we did just as bad  back in xxxx."

We need to concentrate on the current problems, here & now.

The situation here in Aust is that in recent years, nearly every terrorist attack has been from muslim refugees or their children.

Same in England.

Of course not EVERY attack, but we're playing the numbers here, the stats, which is what you have to do if you want to get anywhere with analysis.

The Sudanese here in Melb.

Police statistics show the Sudanese-born are an astonishing 128 times more likely than other Victorians to commit violent robberies and 68 times more likely to stage home invasions.

Up till now, most politicians haven't had to guts to say it as it is, for fear of giving offence. The problem is this: If we don't tackle the problem now, it won't go away, it will get worse.

We need to slow migration from some regions, deport serious criminals, bring in some special laws for terrorism offences.

We need to concentrate on making things safer for the citizens who live here.

[the_great_she_elephant]

We need to concentrate on the current problems, here & now.

The situation here in Aust is that in recent years, nearly every terrorist attack has been from muslim refugees or their children.

And perhaps we ought also to concentrate on the real elephant in the room - the fact that  overwhelmingly the common denominatator in all forms of violent crime is neither race, creed nor colour - it is testosterone.