Lost Dogs' home NYE fireworks

[bluecat*dancing]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/new-years-eve-goes-to-the-dogs-20160101-glxvz1.html

 New Year's Eve is the busiest time of the year for the Lost Dog's Home.

Sixty-five dogs were admitted to the North Melbourne shelter with around half reunited with their families. At the Cranbourne shelter, only 14 of the 40 dogs admitted have been collected.

Lost Dog's Home general manager for animal welfare David Cunliffe said it will take several days to reunite most families.

"It's a very busy night for admissions of dogs ... and it is entirely due to the noise of the fireworks and I think people often being out of the house when it's happening."

[***super_nova***]

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@jimmy*part3 wrote:

A big mistake people make when the dog becomes nervous and shaking at the sound of fireworks...they comfort the dog. In the dogs mind this just reinforces their fear. 

What about lightning...same thing. Usual if you go about your business as if nothing is happening you dog will pick up on that and get used to it. Of course you need to be this way from the time it's pup.

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That is a total rubbish.  Some dogs just are frightened and others could not care less.  I had many dogs over the years,   and I would have 3 that did not flick an ear and one that would be severely distressed.  Comforting dogs or children does not make them more fearful.  And I really like the fact that when my dogs are frightened by something they run to me instead of just running. 

Some years ago I had a dog that was not frightened of thunder or fireworks, but when she was about 4 we had a huge thunderstorm in middle of the night, and the lightning struck somewhere very near, the house shook, it sounded as if something exploded right above our roof.  One dog flew off my bed, where she normally slept, hid under it, and shook so much that my bed vibrated, she hyperventilated so much I thought she will have a heart attack.  That was only few weeks before xmas, and I was dreading the NY fireworks.  But she did not react to the official fireworks held nearby or the ones let off in our street.  But reacted again badly to every thunderstorm for the rest of her life, although not quite as badly, but then again we never had another lightning strike so near.  The other animals in the house at the same time did react to the loud explosion by pricking their ears and looking puzzled. 

[youcandoityoucandoityoucandoit · Accepted solution]

I guess some animals can behave just like some people.

Some are more sensitive, some can ignore stress..some need thoughtful, tender handling, while others take care of themselves, and perhaps cope better at certain times.

[*pepe · Accepted solution]

Quite apart from the distress caused to animals, which on its own is reason enough for people to stop being so selfish as to set them off, quite a few fires were caused by them as well, putting people and their homes in jeopardy and forcing volunteer ses and firies to have to leave their own families and celebrations to deal with them.

They are banned for a reason and personally I wouldn't hesitate to dob in anyone using them illegally.

[solar*magic · Accepted solution]

I'd like to see people who let off fireworks illegally do community service at a lost dogs home, or with returned servicemen, and women, who suffer from PTSD, so they can get to see the consequences of their selfish actions.

It might make them think twice.

[jimmy*part4]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@jimmy*part3 wrote:

A big mistake people make when the dog becomes nervous and shaking at the sound of fireworks...they comfort the dog. In the dogs mind this just reinforces their fear. 

What about lightning...same thing. Usual if you go about your business as if nothing is happening you dog will pick up on that and get used to it. Of course you need to be this way from the time it's pup.

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That is a total rubbish.  Some dogs just are frightened and others could not care less.  I had many dogs over the years,   and I would have 3 that did not flick an ear and one that would be severely distressed.  Comforting dogs or children does not make them more fearful.  And I really like the fact that when my dogs are frightened by something they run to me instead of just running. 

Some years ago I had a dog that was not frightened of thunder or fireworks, but when she was about 4 we had a huge thunderstorm in middle of the night, and the lightning struck somewhere very near, the house shook, it sounded as if something exploded right above our roof.  One dog flew off my bed, where she normally slept, hid under it, and shook so much that my bed vibrated, she hyperventilated so much I thought she will have a heart attack.  That was only few weeks before xmas, and I was dreading the NY fireworks.  But she did not react to the official fireworks held nearby or the ones let off in our street.  But reacted again badly to every thunderstorm for the rest of her life, although not quite as badly, but then again we never had another lightning strike so near.  The other animals in the house at the same time did react to the loud explosion by pricking their ears and looking puzzled. 

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Aside from you rudely calling my opinion rubbish...you're wrong.

It's a fact, you never nurture a fearful or aggressive action of a dog, it only reinforces the behaviour. Which of course is different from comforting a tramatized dog.

So what...your experience was different. Nothing is 100% in every situation.

Pets take their cues from the owners. I have no doubt that every time a celebration is going to have fireworks the dog sensed your nervousness. And I bet everytime a storm rolls through you looked at the dog, with concern, and the dog saw that and knew something was up.

Reacted badly to every thunderstorm her whole life? I'm not surprised, your dread is feeding this reaction.

[moonflyte]

My cat doesn't even blink when I turn on the nutri bullet right next to her.  Same with the vacuum cleaner. She's always curfew'd from 3 pm onwards so I have nothing to worry about but my neighbours lost their dog last year.

Tijme to stop the massive waste of money imo. Lets go laser show, it's clean, not noisy and it doesn't burn money.

[moonflyte]

I tend to agree with you on that jimmy.

[opmania]

Of course he's right

If your showing aggitation to a situation your dog

Will pick up and follow as in the best case scenario

Between dogs and humans, the human needs to

Place themselves at the alpha position to merit

Trust and control. This is how dogs think and operate

If you are amby pamby towards your dogs your

Going to have amby pamby dogs.

Muuch to the detriment of dog and owner.

This in itself is irresponsible ownership of an animal

[moonflyte]

Some people should never be allowed to have an animal.

[jimmy*part4]

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@djilukjilly wrote:

I tend to agree with you on that jimmy.

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Thanks DJ.

It's the same as this situation I've run into more than once. I go into a person house where the dog doesn't know me and is acting aggressive...barking, showing teeth, and is about to strike. Usually a small dog where even if he bit me wouldn't hurt me, so no fear involved.

The person always takes the dog and strokes it saying things like, "it ok...he's ok, etc."...then they give him a treat to keep him busy and calm. It's the same exact thing...they're teaching the dog to behave this way.

And I don't care how well you know the person or tactfully you try to tell them it's wrong...they always get defensive.

Then there are the rare ones that insist I give him the treat to "make friends". I'm against it and refuse, except the first time that happened. The request caught me off guard, so I tried it. The dog took some skin with the treat, lol.

The few times I was left alone with a dog like this...they didn't act this was at all, just the opposite.