on 11-07-2013 10:09 AM
I sure hope that all the true labor voters are going to like the new RUDD party and if KDUDD gets his way you will not know the Labor party any more.
It will be the RUDD party.
I do like the true labor party and what it used to stand for but sadly that all went with Gillard and RUDD is going to trash what is left
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NO, KEVIN Rudd is not saving Labor. He's smashing what's left and building a new Rudd Party.
That is the key to the brilliant return of President Rudd. You don't like the Opposition? Vote for Rudd.
Oh, you don't like Labor? Vote for Rudd.
And you do like Rudd don't you? See the picture he tweeted yesterday of the cut he got shaving? What a guy! Bleeding for the voters!
And with that mob's backing, Rudd has such control of the Party Formerly Known As Labor that its policies are only what he says they are.
No one in Labor knows whether Rudd plans to keep the deficit to $18 billion or blow it even bigger. No one knows if he'll scrap the carbon tax or slash the public service. Will he spend or save? How will he stop the boats?
It is all for Rudd to decide, and so far he's decided virtually nothing.
But what Labor MPs do know is that they can never remove him for as long as he wins elections. Under new party rules Rudd proposed this week, he will in effect be President for life, with only voters able to throw him out.
Rudd's rules ban Labor MPs from removing any Labor prime minister, except in the almost unimaginable circumstance of 75 per cent of them signing a petition charging him (or her) with bringing the party into disrepute - and even then a ballot of party members could outvote them. Only if a leader loses an election can they be challenged - and then only once.
The changes make Rudd not a Prime Minister but President, bigger than his party. But Labor MPs should ask not just whether Rudd - sacked three years ago for being a "control freak" and "dysfunctional" - can be trusted with such power but also whether Labor can afford to lose the freedom to renew itself in office.
Three of the past four Labor prime ministers - Bob Hawke, Rudd and Julia Gillard - lost their jobs at the hands of a challenger.
At least two of those changes worked. Paul Keating replaced an unfocused Bob Hawke to lead Labor to a famous win. In replacing Gillard, Rudd turned certain rout into possible victory.
Even Rudd's dumping in 2010 worked well enough, with Gillard winning an election Labor had feared was lost. Had Rudd not sabotaged the campaign, Gillard would have won comfortably. But under Rudd's rules, every one of those leadership changes would be banned and today Gillard would be leading Labor to annihilation.
A healthy party could never agree to what Rudd proposes - putting itself in the hands of a man it could never remove while he keeps winning. What if he went mad as Doc Evatt? What if he decided to go Green?
But Labor is crippled. It is now far less popular than Rudd, who has built his return on campaigning as much against his party as the Opposition. In his first ad, released last weekend, he declares: "I believe all Australians are sick and tired of negative politics. I believe people want all of us to raise the standards."
Rudd isn't just attacking Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, but disowning Labor under Gillard - the class war talk, the gender war, the yelling. This week he also attacked the power of Labor's "factional few" and criticised how Gillard replaced Senator Trish Crossin with her "captain's pick" of Nova Peris.
Rudd is running against Labor for the votes of people who left it and against the Opposition for the votes of the rest. So far it's working, with Newspoll having Labor level with the Coalition.
So Rudd will present his proposed power grab as almost a fait accompli at a special caucus meeting on July 22. Labor MPs know if they snub him, they will sign the party's death warrant.
Already faction leaders are swallowing their pride and doubts. Paul Howes, the Australian Workers Union secretary who helped tear down Rudd in 2010, said: "The proposals that Kevin Rudd has put up are smart."
True, unions of the Right will tomorrow discuss whether Rudd is indeed taking too much power, but most Labor MPs will feel forced to concede it to him.
Last year Workplace Minister Bill Shorten, asked if he agreed with PM Gillard, sarcastically replied: "I haven't seen what she said but let me say I support what it is that she said."
Now every other minister must give that answer, too: they haven't yet seen Rudd's policies, but they support whatever he says.
on 12-07-2013 01:09 PM
I'm outraged to post a political cartoon, to utter some banter, away with it, what's it all coming to, how dare they? it should be banned from the new boards.
7 it will be if some get their way.
As long as the report button is there we can expect to be pasteurized & homogenised by the posters themselves. They will do the modulators job for them. it started from day one.
on 12-07-2013 01:30 PM
on 12-07-2013 01:31 PM
a political cartoon, to utter some banter
banter at graphics that show a beheaded person, blood and weapons ?
That's politics ? that's not only approprriate ,it's also funny (?) Community Content ?
Keep violence out of politics
..But an arena in which violence has no place is politics. Australians should be concerned about the increasing use of violent language in political debate.
When a Liberal MP suggested a Labor rival would be the first to slit Julia Gillard's throat, Tony Abbott dismissed it as a legitimate
metaphor.
Suggesting the Prime Minister has a target on her head is a metaphor too. But the Opposition Leader had the good sense to withdraw that remark in parliament.
In the US, Tea Party advertisements depicting Democrats who had voted for Medicare-style benefits for the poor with targets on their heads is considered possibly to have contributed to the near-fatal shooting of US congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.
Those advertisements certainly served no socially useful purpose; rather, they sent a message that it's fine for politicians to justify or legitimise gun violence.
Without revisiting the detail, suggesting that Gillard should be put in a chaff bag and drowned like a cat or that she be kicked to death, as well as the display in the chief opposition whip's Parliament House office window of a cartoon depicting a decapitated Prime Minister with blood everywhere, are examples of comment and behaviour that send the worst possible message to the community.
About two decades ago, Paul Keating was routinely condemned for saying his opponent would wear his leadership like a crown of thorns and that opposition MPs were like dogs returning to their vomit (actually also a biblical reference). Keating's metaphors and similes were not violent.
Yet nowadays violent political language is commonplace.
The desensitisation of the Australian public to violent political language is a bad development. It's far more worrying than two rugby league players standing toe-to-toe in a State of Origin match.
Craig Emerson is the Minister for Trade and Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Science and Research.
on 12-07-2013 01:34 PM
the display in the chief opposition whip's Parliament House office window of a cartoon depicting a decapitated Prime Minister with blood everywhere, are examples of comment and behaviour that send the worst possible message to the community.
I should have highlighted that in the article above .
II totally agree
on 12-07-2013 01:43 PM
It's odd that only the luvvies are forever trying to rub people out. They are also the one's who bleat the loudest about everything they feel is "just not not pukker me old comrade" so 19th century.
They want to readjust everybody's opinion, desperate to rub out anything not praising labor, frantic to extoll the labor credo.
We are in the 21st century & everybody is entitled to post an opinion or a reply but it seems only if it complies with the luvvie manifesto otherwise look out for the groupthink sl.....
on 12-07-2013 01:54 PM
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ad infinite. Roll out! roll out the outrage.
c&p the offense taken, blow it up into something to suit.
Quick, give me a stick to poke my own eye out. In future I will point out all name calling, sexism, political cartoons posted, Abbott bashing threads, disability & mental health issues posted, child care, parental leave, carbon tax et al. no one will be exempt from my offense taken, no one will escape the dressing down & dumbing down of debate demanded by the bp'ers.
on 12-07-2013 01:55 PM
12-07-2013 02:05 PM - edited 12-07-2013 02:06 PM
Windrake Some thiings go for no good reason & some things stay that shouldn't
and #37 Windrake:I'm outraged
Sorry Windrake, I did not realise that my own view on issues you raised was not, according to your later posts
permitted to be expressed
Please continue with your outrage
on 12-07-2013 02:19 PM
on 12-07-2013 02:22 PM
Thanks.I've almost finished my Letter to the Editor