Mandatory Vaccination: Would you support it?

[the_bob_delusion]

https://www.theage.com.au/world/south-america/brazilian-supreme-court-rules-against-covid-anti-vaxxe...

Does the collective health for all trump the right of individuals?

Discuss

[not_for_sale2025]

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@icyfroth wrote:
Seatbelts and licences eg.are not injected into the bloodstream though, are they?

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Neither is the vaccine. It's injected into the muscle.

[the_bob_delusion]

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@icyfroth wrote:
No but they have ways. Like denying you employment if you refuse.

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Would you rather go to a doctor who choose not to be vaccinated or go to one who is? 

[the_bob_delusion]

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@lalbo-81 wrote:
Just a curiosity question, do children have to have certain vaccinations to attend school there? And if so, what, if any , are the exemptions?

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Make up a religion and say your special God doesn't allow you to. THere's your exemption. 

[the_bob_delusion]

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@icyfroth wrote:
Seatbelts and licences eg.are not injected into the bloodstream though, are they?

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Same concept of rights. Some people want their individual right of not having to wear seatbelts. Law enforces it on everyone to protect the majority i.e to protect reckless people and the people affected by reckless people. 

[not_for_sale2025]

What would be the ongoing rights of people who refused the vaccine?

Should they retain the right to roam freely in society? Should they retain the right to free hospital care where they would endanger the safety of health workers, their families and other patients? Should they retain the right to enter any public establishment of their choice? Should they retain the right to be a member of a specific society, or move on?

And what if some of those who refuse are doctors, nurses, pharmacists, police, childcare workers, checkout staff, postal staff etc?

[eol-products]

I own a car that does not require seatbelts but it feels strange without them so I keep them installed. Sometimes I find it easier to just follow the rules and worry about what is for dinner tonight.

[lyndal1838]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

And what if some of those who refuse are doctors, nurses, pharmacists, police, childcare workers, checkout staff, postal staff etc?

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I think you would find they would no longer have a job.

If employment is dependent on the worker being vaccinated there can be no exceptions.

[not_for_sale2025]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

And what if some of those who refuse are doctors, nurses, pharmacists, police, childcare workers, checkout staff, postal staff etc?

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I think you would find they would no longer have a job.

If employment is dependent on the worker being vaccinated there can be no exceptions.

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The number of people working in these important professions would be over a million. So it would be mandatory for them if they wanted to retain their jobs, but not mandatory for millions of other workers. In keeping with Bob's question, would we support that? It doesn't sit well with me, but I don't know what the solution would be. So many problems would develop.

[davewil1964]

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@lalbo-81 wrote:
Just a curiosity question, do children have to have certain vaccinations to attend school there? And if so, what, if any , are the exemptions?

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I believe so.

Basically these -

• chickenpox (varicella)
• diphtheria
• influenza
• hepatitis B
• Hib
• measles
• meningococcal AWCY
• mumps
• pneumococcal
• polio
• rotavirus
• rubella
• tetanus
• whooping cough (pertussis).

There used to be exemptions for religious reasons. Enough said.

Basically these days if a child hasn't had the above vaccinations, they will lose access to child tax benefits - a form of middle-class welfare designed to encourage people to emulate rabbits.

In my day, every child contracted measles, mumps, chickenpox and probably rubella.

Even in the 60s polio was 100% administered in schools. Tetanus is a bit of a joke, as that is only required with a specific wound. I also have been vaccinated for smallpox, so when the caches are released I will be fine

[countessalmirena]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

And what if some of those who refuse are doctors, nurses, pharmacists, police, childcare workers, checkout staff, postal staff etc?

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I think you would find they would no longer have a job.

If employment is dependent on the worker being vaccinated there can be no exceptions.

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Perfectly correct. In health or clinical settings, part of the conditions of employment address this very issue, and documentary evidence is required.