@acacia_pycnantha wrote:
I think your understanding might change when you read more and appreciate that in Islam, women do not enjoy the same rights or social freedoms that the men enjoy.
My understanding is that the words of the koran (and hence its' message) are not able to be changed; there is a prohibition against it.
The old testament was not a christian scripture so using it to compare the staus of women in christianity vs islam seems to be not worthwhile.
The more I read of religious texts, the more it confirms my atheism.
I suspect acacia that you don't know many muslim men or women. because believe me when I say modern muslim women rule the roost lol. They have men wrapped around their little fingers. That's not to say that there aren't 'rules' as there would be in any culture.
But ultimately there is a level of respect towards women (and vice versa) that your average Aussie bogan could well do have a lesson in.
It might be a good moment to point out that by far the vast majority of domestic violence and sexual assault occur in Australian households. And not muslim households. And of course domestic homicide is a predominantly western crime. What excuse do these men use to abuse/kill their women?
If you had to choose a race in which women are most likely to be emotionally, sexually and physically abused, then look no furher than our own indigenous women. Or perhaps you may find it impressive that Filipino women are 6 times more likely to die at the hands of their (generally white, anglo aussie) partners. No Koran here to spur them on.
Another fact I think you may find interesting is that very few arabic countries (cause really, arabic men are what you are referring to isn't it?) have high levels of domestic abuse and domestic homicide of women. Those islamic countries that DO have high levels are non-arabic - Bangladesh, Indonesia, Morocco most likely violence is a result of low education and poverty rather than these men have been reading the Koran too literally.
One thing to note of the Koran is that, unlike the Bible, there are way more references to mans responsibility towards women in terms of showing respect, humility and care. The Koran even talks about practical matters like ensuring women are financially cared. So we can safely assume that for every single moronic male (who happens to be a muslim) who takes the few extreme elements out of the Koran as a guide on how to treat a woman, there are thousands and thousands who who take the points about respecting women as their guide.
But on saying all of the above, I would dearly love to see some (Australian) examples where (islamic) women do not enjoy the same rights or social freedoms that the men enjoy .
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we can debate it. 
