Multiculturism

[sssaau4]

What is it?

Say I come here and i am asian.

I can speak my language at home to my family, I can cook the food i like at home (or anywhere) I can do my rituals to my gods, no one will care.

So what is that multiculturalism all about?

it seems like empth words to me.

i don't understand.

i come from a different culture, english is my 2nd language.

i cook my countries food at home and hubby puts up with it or i cook him something else if it's too much of an aquired taste.

i speak english (foreign) to other people in the shops because no-one would understand a word if i spoke in my native tongue.

so what exactly is multiculturalism?

is it some ideal where i could talk in my native tongue here and expevt other people to understand me?

is it the freedom to cook my "foreign" meals as i please?

can someone please enlighten me what it actually means?

[k0llectable5]

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@am*3 wrote:

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

That could apply to any democractic country UK, US, Canada, ... there is nothing specifically Australian about any of that.

'kiss on the cheek' the French comes to mind first.

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I think you argue just for the sake of arguing lol... which is what I like about you 😉

But I do think it's sad that you dont believe in Aussie culture but you are so quick to defend every other culture in the country.

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**No, I don't. I believe in what I post. That is not true. Your argument for what is 'Australian Culture' is very weak, as shown by that link for students and a dead link to some obscure unregistered (?) political party with racist policies.

**This thread is about multicultarism in Australia. There is not an 'Australian' culture that has had no influences from Aboriginal and Torres Island People, British Colonisation 1788 AND the multi ethnic immigration that followed.

I am not a racist or a religious bigot so don't need a reason if I am seen to 'defend every other culture in Australia'. Cultures that are part of our whole Multicultural Australian society.

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I post links that I agree with thats all. Articles that encompass my general opinion.   I'm not trying to post "authoritative" links or anything like that.  That link is not dead.  It works perfectly fine for me...  But for the record http://ausvotersparty.org.au/2012/01/multiculturalism-2/ maybe that link will work for you.  What are their racist policies???  They think border protection is important? So now wanting to protect Australian borders is considered racist?  

So how about you explain what you think the culture of Australia is.  In your own words, not c&p from govt websites.  

I understand that we are very much influenced by the British Colonialisation and the multi ethnic immigration that followed but we are actually in the year 2014 now, and whether you like it or not those "immigrants" are now Australian...

[cherry*135]

I understand that we are very much influenced by the British Colonialisation and the multi ethnic immigration that followed but we are actually in the year 2014 now, and whether you like it or not those "immigrants" are now Australian**

Thats the whole point**, as are the immigrants right up today-  2014! You forgot to include Aboriginal & Torres Islanders ^^.

That link worked. What is the Australian Voters Party? Quoting a link from some obscure non registered political party doesn't hold much weight.

Racist?  - 5 reasons not to support multiculturalism, but the practicality of blending different races diametrically opposed in their ideology and beliefs must eventually fail, myths/scaremongering like this: It is not only Europe that struggles with multiculturalism, lack of integration and separatism. The United States, with a huge influx of immigrants from Mexico and South America, faces the prospect that within another twenty years the majority of the population could be speaking Spanish.

I am not reading anymore it's rubbish and I am ashamed to be even quoting it here!

I already said there is no specific 'Australian Culture' . Australia is a multicultural society. Not up to me to prove there is no Australian Culture, I didn't claim there was one.

[cherry*135]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

siggie.. the op uses different ID's . I do know what I claimed is accurate.

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You are right am*3...and she can be controversial on all of her IDs.

A lot of posts on this thread have gone missing since last night,

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I didn't notice that. Controversial, yes. I like this thread topic though as it is not aimed at any one race or religion.. just Multiculturalism as the topic.

[boris1gary]

secondhandwonderland, I'm confused, I thought you didn't agree with the bit in bold? 

Have a read of that article.  I think it outlines Australian culture pretty well.

As well as the mindset that the people will be given a "fair go," (ie: a spirit of egalitarianism that embraces tolerance, mutual respect, and compassion for those in need),  respect for the rights of the individual, allowing people to adhere to their own cultural and religious customs, freedom of speech and association, freedom of religion and a secular government, equality for men and women, equality of oppertunity, peacefullness, women usually greet close family and friends with a "kiss on the cheek" while most men will greet other men with a handshake, whereas it's totally acceptable for couples to hold hands, cuddle or even kiss in public. A vibrant arts, sporting and musical scene.... do I need to go on?   

[cherry*135]

Multiculturalism is acceptance and a respect for other cultures. Some may cultures may influence others way of life, or they may not. That isn't the point.

Some cultures eat raw fish, I don't. That doesn't mean I think they shouldn't do it.

[cherry*135]

Freedom of religion - tick

[the_great_she_elephant]

They are not concerned or interested about selling to the wider population,hence the productsare labelled in their language.

Yet clearly that was not the case with this particular shop as, according to the OP,  it had been advertised -  in English - on TV

[k0llectable5]

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@am*3 wrote:

I understand that we are very much influenced by the British Colonialisation and the multi ethnic immigration that followed but we are actually in the year 2014 now, and whether you like it or not those "immigrants" are now Australian**

Thats the whole point**, as are the immigrants right up today-  2014! You forgot to include Aboriginal & Torres Islanders ^^.

 That link worked. What is the Australian Voters Party? Quoting a link from some obscure non registered political party doesn't hold much weight.

Racist?  - 5 reasons not to support multiculturalism, but the practicality of blending different races diametrically opposed in their ideology and beliefs must eventually fail, myths/scaremongering like this: It is not only Europe that struggles with multiculturalism, lack of integration and separatism. The United States, with a huge influx of immigrants from Mexico and South America, faces the prospect that within another twenty years the majority of the population could be speaking Spanish.

I am not reading anymore its rubbish!

I already said there is no specific 'Australian Culture' . Australia is a multicultural society. Not up to me to prove there is no Australian Culture, I didn't claim there was one.

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Oh sorry I forgot I was arguing with the CS heavy weight debating champion of the forums.... lol  just kidding

I'm not trying to hold "weight" as you so eloquently put it, and as I said earlier I dont care that they are an obscure party or whatever, if I agreee with the content of the article I will post it.  I didn't say you had to agree with it.  I think it was great that someone actually went to the effort to explain the reasons to support and reasons not to support multiculturalism. And fwiw anyone who tries to outline the cons of multiculturalism is going to sound racist.  Anything thats not 100% pro multiculturalism will always seem racist especially to the most sensitive...

[cherry*135]

There is a Japanese dept store in Australia. Cheap and cheerful.. everything $2.80. I am pretty sure the labeling on all their products is in Japanese.. I remember trying to work out what an item was supposed to be but the label was no help! There are staff around the store you can ask for help. The sell Japanese brand cans of drink, sweets also.

SW - twice interpersonal comments now.. doesn't add anything to your view does it? just petty.. even if you later add. just kidding.

You agree with a website that publishes racists propaganda and scaremongering. no wonder you don't believe in multiculturalism.

It doesn't 'seem' racist it is racist. 

[the_great_she_elephant]

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Whoever the legal citizens are of any given country that accepts immigrants.  So in this instance the host population are "Australians"  Please dont say the only Australians are Aboriginals or something like that. I'm sure you know what an "Aussie" is...

We are one
But we are many
And from all the lands on earth we come
We'll share a dream
And sing with one voice
I am, you are, we are Australian.

And I don't believe "one voice" necessarily has to mean one language.