NBN Rollout

[pct001wine]

From now on monthly Ready for Service lists and other key details will only be  available via the NBN Co sales portal, which isn't open to the  public. Instead the government will issue a weekly progress report  indicating the overall number of premises passed, premises serviceable and  services activated. These national figures will not breakdown the rollout to  specific locations. The figures no longer include areas where construction has  "commenced", as Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull says they "do not  necessarily provide a meaningful indicator of progress".

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/nbn-co-rewrites-rollout-map--wi...

Seems a bit like the weekly reporting of boat arrivals.   Is this the hallmark of this new government - giving us the news they want us to have ?  Where's the transparency ?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkVcF-PpthA

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Labor hired the right people to design the network after years of reviews and inaction by all sides

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/11/1/technology/questioning-turnbulls-open-and-inde...

In an interview with The Washington Post Prime Minister Tony Abbott described the National Broadband Network (NBN) FTTP rollout as part of the “the wonderful, wacko world of the former government.”

But, it seems Abbott being equally as “wacky” if he expects Australian voters to believe that the “open and independent” NBN reviews are anything other than a front for a change management process.

The Australian public has been led to believe that an open and independent review has commenced into the NBN but what we’re being told is not what is happening over at NBN Co.

Stacking the deck

The communications minister Malcolm Turnbull’s review of the NBN is most extraordinary. He has brought in a couple of former close colleagues to oversee the review, put them to work as employees of NBN Co at significant cost, hired three consulting companies to assist them, again utilising scarce NBN Co funds, and asked anyone that had an unalterable stake in the former NBN approach to leave NBN Co.

Is this how an open and independent review is carried out?

[monman12]

PS: Eventual privatisation of NBN Co is bipartisan policy FN

FN: "A sale needs senate approval."

I repeat FN" privatisation of NBN Co is bipartisan policy",  what  significance does "senate approval"  hold?

nɥºɾ

[lakeland27]

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@monman12 wrote:

PS: Eventual privatisation of NBN Co is bipartisan policy FN

FN: "A sale needs senate approval."

I repeat FN" privatisation of NBN Co is bipartisan policy",  what  significance does "senate approval"  hold?

nɥºɾ

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the most obvious point is that upon completion the original scheme would have been saleable for a price that reflects the investment, the revised (downgraded) scheme is worth probably one third of the price on completion because its only really half-finished. the copper still requires replacement, and it isn't just for its inferior performance  http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2013/09/18/3851118.htm   its fine to hold a 'private is best' view, but private wouldn't stump up the money.

not all capital investment requires an instant dividend, the concept of 'patient capital' seems beyond the understanding of most.

the thing about senate approval is that a sensible house would sell after it achieved its goals, not before .

[lakeland27]

http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2013/09/18/3851118.htm  if this doesn't work i could paste the entire article.

[lakeland27]

http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2012/11/27/3642266.htm

[spotweldersfriend]

First it was 40 odd billion,then $90 billion.Now windrake says hundreds of billions. By the time this discussion runs out of steam,it could be in the trillions.:-)

[lakeland27]

by the time they replace the copper it will. taking a project of this size and stopping where the network is most vulnerable simply means doing it all again in ten years from the house to the cable . so, they actually get to do it twice . turning one project into two with a short recess in between means they make even more on the second round   'private is the way to go'  at 2 or 5 times the price.

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@monman12 wrote:

PS: Eventual privatisation of NBN Co is bipartisan policy FN

FN: "A sale needs senate approval."

I repeat FN" privatisation of NBN Co is bipartisan policy",  what  significance does "senate approval"  hold?

nɥºɾ

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It means that as the senate changes so could the willingness to privitise.

There will always be those for and those against.  

If it remains a govt monopoly there is a chance that the fibre will eventually continue into places that are for now getting wireless. Projects in which the govt invests significant funds are probably best kept in govt ownership. 

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@windrake wrote:

It's a laugh to read all the defence of this NBN, how it's the greatest, what rot, it's technology & we all know what happens with technology, anybody remember Sony Beta Video recorders ?

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What does beta video have to do with the NBN?

Did you protest against the Harbour Bridge, the Opera House, the electricity network, the Telstra copper network, the sewerage systems?  You're using all the same arguments that were used against past progressive initiatives