NBN debate full of 'erroneous' information

[freakiness]

I found this article today.

It addresses some of the issues I see repeated frequently, often by people who know better.

As I trial user I am totally sold on the NBN as an FTTP project.

In my lifetime I've seen the expansion of the copper network until it's limits have been reached.  And I've seen the emergence of optical fibre connectivity from the trunk lines and big business to the NBN.  There's been private rollouts to specific estates and other estates with Telstra. TransACT tried a variety of technologies before settling on FTTP, much the same as the NBN.

It's a great investment for us all. And about the furthest thing from short term election cycle investment in decades.

I'm happy to post the rest of the article if anyone doesn't like links but would like to read it.

It is only going to get worse. Ever since it was first announced more than  four years ago, the national broadband network has polarised people, including  those whose official public comments add considerably to the debate. Some of it  is erroneous and misleading, according to the experts. And even then, experts'  opinions vary.

IT Pro asked about a dozen Australian academic institutions to  compile a list of statements they believe are inaccurate. Three of them  responded with the following comments. You might like to add your own in the  comments below.

"Alternative technology" not really an alternative now

Mark Gregory, senior lecturer at RMIT's school of electrical and computer  engineering, said the public is being misled on how alternative technologies  including hybrid fiber-coaxial (HFC) and fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) could be used  to replace fibre-to-the-premise (FTTP) and speed up the NBN rollout.

"To change direction now requires major, multi-billion dollar contracts be  renegotiated with Telstra, Optus and Vodafone – and there is no reason why any  of these companies would agree to proceed."

He said there was also a multitude of construction contracts that would need  to be changed or exited, placing a burden on taxpayers.

"Evidence is emerging as the NBN rollout proceeds that the copper network is  beyond saving, network plant and infrastructure requires substantial maintenance  and upgrades, and there are more network black-spots than previously  identified.

"The Australian public is being hoodwinked by false statements that have been  substantively disproved," Gregory said.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/government-it/nbn-debate-full-of-erroneous-information-20130404-2h8m...

Are you in favour if the NBN as it stands?

[poddster]

In fact I am just pointing out some facts that you seem to be oblivious of, does that earn me the title of stupid?

Perhaps you know better than the organization that collects internet data transfer statistics worldwide.

Maybe you should direct the above question to your reflection in the mirror.

[catsnknots]

I don't know where I heard it.. possibly on ABC radio.. but apparently no one can get 100Mbps

Is that your speed Freaky?? 

[freakiness]

In fact I am just pointing out some facts that you seem to be oblivious of, does that earn me the title of stupid?

Perhaps you know better than the organization that collects internet data transfer statistics worldwide.

Maybe you should direct the above question to your reflection in the mirror.

You don't understand average?

Nobody ever claimed that 100% of the country would be using 100Mbps plans from the outset.

[freakiness]

I don't know where I heard it.. possibly on ABC radio.. but apparently no one can get 100Mbps

Is that your speed Freaky?? 

What do you mean by people can not get 100Mbps?

Do you mean someone on wireless can't or do you mean people pay for 100 and lose 2 in transmission?

[freakiness]

No, Cat. I did not choose the 100Mbps plan because I have 2 connections and wanted to keep my costs down. My 2 connections for phone and net combined cost $20 more than my one net connection previously.

[izabsmiling]

ha ha

I was laughing at someone I know arguing with a friend because the friend was convinced they did not use the internet. The argument was on facebook.  :^O

I take it they were thinking that being on the internet means being on a PC ?

I'm not quite as bad as that :^O 

Thanks for the info , I've made a start at reading it.

My ISP called me recently and I told them (as I have done often in the past) that I didn't want to buy anything else or spend any more money and that it was a bad time for me to talk ...they had said that they didn't want to sell me anything just make things better for me and I replied that I would call them when I had the time to talk to them and I said goodbye ....I am now wondering if it was to talk about something relating to the NBN .I will have to call them back and find out 

[topsidesoul]

I take it they were thinking that being on the internet means being on a PC ?

I'm not quite as bad as that :^O 

Thanks for the info , I've made a start at reading it.

My ISP called me recently and I told them (as I have done often in the past) that I didn't want to buy anything else or spend any more money and that it was a bad time for me to talk ...they had said that they didn't want to sell me anything just make things better for me and I replied that I would call them when I had the time to talk to them and I said goodbye ....I am now wondering if it was to talk about something relating to the NBN .I will have to call them back and find out 

If your with Telstra it was a contracted call center (with a checkered history)who will offer to join your phone with say foxtel or the internet or all three and your mobile etc etc.

I did it, changed my mind within the seven days and it was a pain.

I forgot their name, I will never do business with them and added them on my no call list.

Now to save $20 a month I I have to pay all my bills on one day.

Also they keep insisting on not wanting to send 'hard copy paper ' bills.

[freakiness]

Iza, put your address or suburb into the roll out map search box and find out

http://nbnco.com.au/when-do-i-get-it/index.html

[izabsmiling]

thanks Freaki , it said not currently available .

Soul, no they aren't my ISP.

.I've had a similar company (?) call repeatedly (ie 5 times a day) at all hours including on weekends .

[poddster]

Let's bump this one too, seeing that it is topical B-)