NBN debate full of 'erroneous' information

I found this article today.


It addresses some of the issues I see repeated frequently, often by people who know better.


As I trial user I am totally sold on the NBN as an FTTP project.


In my lifetime I've seen the expansion of the copper network until it's limits have been reached.  And I've seen the emergence of optical fibre connectivity from the trunk lines and big business to the NBN.  There's been private rollouts to specific estates and other estates with Telstra. TransACT tried a variety of technologies before settling on FTTP, much the same as the NBN.


 


It's a great investment for us all. And about the furthest thing from short term election cycle investment in decades.


 


I'm happy to post the rest of the article if anyone doesn't like links but would like to read it.


 


It is only going to get worse. Ever since it was first announced more than  four years ago, the national broadband network has polarised people, including  those whose official public comments add considerably to the debate. Some of it  is erroneous and misleading, according to the experts. And even then, experts'  opinions vary.


IT Pro asked about a dozen Australian academic institutions to  compile a list of statements they believe are inaccurate. Three of them  responded with the following comments. You might like to add your own in the  comments below.


                        


"Alternative technology" not really an alternative now


 


Mark Gregory, senior lecturer at RMIT's school of electrical and computer  engineering, said the public is being misled on how alternative technologies  including hybrid fiber-coaxial (HFC) and fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) could be used  to replace fibre-to-the-premise (FTTP) and speed up the NBN rollout.


"To change direction now requires major, multi-billion dollar contracts be  renegotiated with Telstra, Optus and Vodafone – and there is no reason why any  of these companies would agree to proceed."


He said there was also a multitude of construction contracts that would need  to be changed or exited, placing a burden on taxpayers.


"Evidence is emerging as the NBN rollout proceeds that the copper network is  beyond saving, network plant and infrastructure requires substantial maintenance  and upgrades, and there are more network black-spots than previously  identified.


"The Australian public is being hoodwinked by false statements that have been  substantively disproved," Gregory said.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/government-it/nbn-debate-full-of-erroneous-information-20130404-2h8m...


 


Are you in favour if the NBN as it stands?

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I have reported post 12 as an interpersonal dispute.



 


But it is true... 

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conroy announced dropping the filter idea quite some time ago, but none of the comics printed it i guess.



 


we all know he dropped it and it was all over the news..


 


but he focused on it for years and years... omg.. 

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#9 and #11 also ?????


 


 


 


:^O

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I never thought anyone was saying anything about C&P's. The topic was NBN, hardly off topic if someone mentions another factor of it other than the opening post.

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That's got nothing to do with this information.


Why not read the article posted.


 


The OP is about the misinformation getting repeated over and over not the negotiations with ACCC, which are irrelevant to the subject.



 


Same as this comment was true, but you took exception to it in a following post?

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we all know he dropped it and it was all over the news..


 


but he focused on it for years and years... omg.. 



he doesn't like seeing children abused online, hardly a crime eh ?


 

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Freaki, I voted.I admit to not understanding it though I do try ...it isn't easy for me to understand these kinds of things.I musn't be wired that way 

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I don't know what is going to end up happening with the NBN.. not even this government knows what is going to happen long term with the NBN because they are yet to do a cost benefit analysis... 


 


or if they have done one they refuse to show it.. 


 


as long as the government is not being transparent or honest, and while Conroy is focused on filtering the internet, silencing media, or telling people to wear red underpants on his head there will speculation.... 


 


 



 


Have you read the business case or plan?


Do you watch the Senate estimates and every other broadcast about the NBN?


A cost benefit analysis is not necessary. They've been done by others. The Productivity Commissioner said it is not needed. He said in most cases they are needed but always, eg NBN.


 


Conroy is not focussed on filters or silencing the media.


Did you listen to the speech he used the red undies ref in?


Obviously not. He was attempting to explain to the Americans that he, as minister, was in charge of all spectrum allocations as our system is different to theirs.


 


Anyway he must be doing OK if the only arguments people can put forward are those.


 


 

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Freaki, I voted.I admit to not understanding it though I do try ...it isn't easy for me to understand these kinds of things.I musn't be wired that way 



 


That link sums up some of the BS argument.


There is a cool NBN ad on youtube and various facebook pages.


http://www.facebook.com/nbngovau 

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Freaki, I voted.I admit to not understanding it though I do try ...it isn't easy for me to understand these kinds of things.I musn't be wired that way 



 


ha ha


I was laughing at someone I know arguing with a friend because the friend was convinced they did not use the internet. The argument was on facebook.  :^O

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