Neville Wran's Daughter Charged With Murder

[icyfroth]

The youngest daughter of the late NSW premier Neville Wran is one of three people allegedly involved in a double stabbing that left one man dead at a notorious inner-Sydney housing commission unit block.

Wran, the goddaughter of Kerry Packer, is studying modern history, her Facebook page says.

It is not yet clear what motivated the stabbings, but it was likely the attackers knew the victims and the violence might have escalated from an argument, police said at the time.

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How sad. That's a long way down for a young person born into a such privileged family.

It's thought to have been over drugs.

[colic2bullsgirlore]

Ask your medical professional whether they have an Exit Strategy for your childs medication.

Ask them whether that strategy involves tapering the dose.

[azureline**]

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@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:

Ask your medical professional whether they have an Exit Strategy for your childs medication.

Ask them whether that strategy involves tapering the dose.

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I can answer that............................

no, no need for an exit strategy of tapering the dose, the correct dosage takes some juggling..................... that is why there is an individual dosage for each child.

They need to take it at the same time each day as it has no residual effect. (uneducated , personal, observant opinion )

[i-need-a-martini]

Colic - with all respect as we seemt o be going around in circle, I don't believe that you have a full understanding of how the drug works and how it is prescribed in Australia.

There is no need to taper off the dose with Ritalin. As I keep saying (over and over again) the prescribed doses are extremely low.

Also Ritalin does not stay in your system nor does it affect any other part of the brain. There is no need to be weaned off the drug.

And most ADD children take it like mine does - only when required. That means that weekdays when they go to school they take it then nothing on the weekends. And nothing during the school holidays.

Withdrawals? There are none.

Perhaps if you are taking phenomenally high doses without prescription there might be some risk of addiction although none of the literature and research records any medical addiction. But, again, as already  discussed, this is near impossible nor feasible nor worth it.

[lloydslights]

I am very naive about ADHD,etc.

Martini, I can't understand why a child needs Ritalin on a part time basis, i.e. only when attending school.

Are the "symptoms" brought on by the actual school environment?

DEB

[azureline**]

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@lloydslights wrote:

I am very naive about ADHD,etc.

Martini, I can't understand why a child needs Ritalin on a part time basis, i.e. only when attending school.

Are the "symptoms" brought on by the actual school environment?

DEB

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some people choose not to medicate on weekends and holidays and when a child is sick..................

They don't need to be when at home if the family manage the environment and activities to suit the child..................

ADHD is still there.

There are complex solutions that families find but they cannot usually be used when the child is in mainstream school. 

[i-need-a-martini]

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@lloydslights wrote:

I am very naive about ADHD,etc.

Martini, I can't understand why a child needs Ritalin on a part time basis, i.e. only when attending school.

Are the "symptoms" brought on by the actual school environment?

DEB

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lloyd - my 12yo daughter is ADD which means she is not hyperactive. But her attention span is zero. She has a mild intellectual handicap which, when coupled with ADD, means that her capacity to learn basic things at school is near impossible unless she is able to concentrate.

When she is off Ritalin, she describes her day at school as days when "people and things yell at her" and she can't focus on school work because her brain is being hammered with (what to her) is over-stimulation. 

On the Ritalin, she is still behind but can cope and at least she is getting the best chance for a basic education.

At home there is no reason for her to take the Ritalin so I choose not to give it to her unless there is something unusual happening like going to a play where it helps when she can focus.

Same with many hyperactive ADHA kids I imagine. At school, they need to be able to concentrate and not be disruptive in order to learn. Possibly so also at home but many parents choose to not medicate when they aren't in school.

[lloydslights]

I had been thinking further on this.  If a teacher had a couple of kids in the  class with the symptoms, it would be disruptive for all involved.  

Thanks for answering, both Martini and Azureline.

DEB

[colic2bullsgirlore]

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@azureline** wrote:

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@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:

Ask your medical professional whether they have an Exit Strategy for your childs medication.

Ask them whether that strategy involves tapering the dose.

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I can answer that............................

no, no need for an exit strategy of tapering the dose, the correct dosage takes some juggling..................... that is why there is an individual dosage for each child.

They need to take it at the same time each day as it has no residual effect. (uneducated , personal, observant opinion )

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I believe azureline you just answered the question for your grandchilds specific dosage and condition as prescribed by

your health professional.............

I am glad they are ok and have an exit strategy.... ie.. just stop, no tapering, Don't worry, be happy and everything will

be hunky dory

............. Jack.......

it's just the rest I worry about

This sheet azureline and its information confirms that tapering and medical supervision is generally accepted as part of

the normal exit strategy.

Novartis who make and distribute Ritalin LA in Australia have an Australian fact sheet that is regularly updated

Some salient points below..... straight from the horses mouth as at April 2014 and current for the medication dosages

below with the disclaimer (Follow all directions given to you by your doctor and pharmacist carefully. They may

differ from the information contained in this leaflet.)

This leaflet was prepared in April 2014.

Australian Registration Number

Ritalin LA 10 mg: AUST R 160228

Ritalin LA 20 mg: AUST R 82957

Ritalin LA 30 mg: AUST R 82958

Ritalin LA 40 mg: AUST R 82959

http://www.novartis.com.au/CMI_PDF/rtlLA.pdf

This medicine is only available with a doctor's prescription and your doctor has special permission to prescribe it.

There is not enough information to recommend its use in children under 6 years old.

Follow all directions given to you by your doctor and pharmacist carefully.

They may differ from the information contained in this leaflet.

Do not stop your treatment without first checking with your doctor.

If you suddenly stop taking this medicine, your condition may reappear or you may get unwanted effects such as

depression.

To prevent this, your doctor may want to gradually reduce the amount of medicine you take each day before

stopping it completely.

You will need medical supervision after having interrupted the treatment.

Do not change the dose without talking to the doctor.

If you have the impression that the effect of Ritalin LA is too strong or too weak, talk to the doctor.

[azureline**]

Standard side effects info as on all medications? There may always be exceptions.

My grandchild isn't taking Ritalin now, Concerta suits better.

He has ADHD

I disagreed with this when it was diagnosed but the more time I spend with him, the more I agree. I currently have him for 7 days ... and nights. He has an amazing school and his teacher is worth her weight in gold.

There is a lot of controversy surrounding these drugs and I understand that but you need to live with it and see what happens when a child can't function the same way as his/her peers and how it makes them feel.

[purple_haize]

My grandson is on Ritilin for ADHD, he takes it all the time and he is doing well on it.

My granddaughter has slight autism and she is on something else that suits her as she is only 4yrs.

With my grandson it was trial and error till they got the dosage right.

As long as medications help children with these problems, I see no problem with them taking the meds.