on 14-08-2014 09:58 AM
The youngest daughter of the late NSW premier Neville Wran is one of three people allegedly involved in a double stabbing that left one man dead at a notorious inner-Sydney housing commission unit block.
Wran, the goddaughter of Kerry Packer, is studying modern history, her Facebook page says.
It is not yet clear what motivated the stabbings, but it was likely the attackers knew the victims and the violence might have escalated from an argument, police said at the time.
How sad. That's a long way down for a young person born into a such privileged family.
It's thought to have been over drugs.
on 15-08-2014 09:06 AM
@channys_mum wrote:
@i-need-a-martini wrote:He was a drug dealer. In my books anyone that sucks another human being into addiction for the sake of some extra dollars is a low-life.
I guess she was just picking up her ironing and he fell on the knife that she used to cut the buttons of her shirt.
I agree dealers are low life. The ones who don't use and are driven purely by the money are the scum of society.
Sometimes though a person can be getting their own and get a bit extra because a friend has asked them to get them some.
Money passes hands and maybe a little is kept for the risk/trouble. Does that make that person a dealer too.
I am anti drugs by the way, however after giving up cigarettes I have gained a little insight into the struggles of giving up an addiction.
Whatever the problem murder is not acceptable, no matter who your daddy is.
Where did I suggest she isn't responsible for her actions? I was simply responding to colics defence of a known and convicted drug dealer.
However on saying that, the state of mind of a drug addict when they need a drug is not rational. A drug dealer always knows what he is doing.
I should also point out (and not in response to Channysmum) that Harriet Wran was not a casual drug user. She has been addicted to drugs and alchohol since she was a teen and was thrown out of an exclusive school in her mid teens for drug use. By all accounts she was brought up in a sensible and loving family so we can't blame that. I suspect she has the kind of biology that craved addiction and she had the full gammit of addictions - drink, cigarettes, drugs, gambling.
For some people drug taking is not simply a habit to be broken. It is part of their DNA.
on 15-08-2014 09:09 AM
If it wasn't Wran's Daughter, an entitled woman who has never heard the word "NO" then it wouldn't make the news.
on 15-08-2014 09:15 AM
I just had a terrible thought The kangaroo court (including me) decided that Harriet and her boyfriend broke in to get on.
It is incomprehensible to me that she was destitute even though she was found with no money and disshevelled unless her
family cut her off somehow.. with some tough love?
High profile "rich" drug users usually get on in quantity and through high class dealers
So maybe they broke in to collect the drug money owed?
I wondered whether anybody had read a news story that addressed who actually owed who?
not that it really matters I guess
on 15-08-2014 09:17 AM
on 15-08-2014 09:48 AM
@lurker172602 wrote:
Have you been in their house all through her upbringing? How otherwise could you possibly know what has or hasn't been said to her by her family?
lol...no I haven't been in her house but that in itself does not prevent me from commenting that she had a privileged upbringing, went to the best schools and was given every opportunity to excel in life.
If she wasn't a privileged woman these drug assisted murderous stabbings wouldn't rate a mention.
What's the bet she'll get off?
on 15-08-2014 10:04 AM
I think this terrible saga is an excellent example of how Addiction the brain disease transcends caste and the catastrophic result is an indictment of societies solution, prohibition, a failure that serves nobody other than its masters
...organized crime....
on 15-08-2014 10:52 AM
15-08-2014 10:53 AM - edited 15-08-2014 10:54 AM
on 15-08-2014 11:05 AM
@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:
@2106greencat wrote:
@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:Other friends of Mr McNulty expressed their shock and sadness following his death.
"Your sharp wit, world observations, humour and brilliant dance moves will be missed my friend. Rest in Peace," one friend wrote on Facebook.
Another said that Mr McNulty was a musician who performed in a band with him in the early 1990s.
"Daniel was a funny, talented and gifted musician who had an on going battle with addiction," the friend wrote.
"He, like so many others hated what he had become but couldn't get away from it, being on a treadmill of hand to mouth subsistence living, trying to keep off drugs in his environment was impossible."
He said the Daniel he knew was a "funny, driven, sensitive man who didn't deserve to die in a violence, fighting for his life in his own home".
"Rest in Peace Dear Daniel. You are finally free," he said.
I wonder if Daniel owned a car???..... If he did i will wager he didn't drive it far..... I wonder how many cars Harriet owned??but I guess if you are a million heiress $70 bucks is an absolute fortuneColic's - I feel you are kind of off on a tangent about the drug dealer/addict............
did it slip by you that Harriet...millionairess with no matter how many cars..........was also an addict? and that this may also have led to the tragic events and most definitely attributed to the way her mind was functioning at the time, also that she did not act alone.
I an not making light of the murder in any way shape or form, but there is always so much more to these crimes especially when drug's are involved.
It is tragic all round IMO and a sensless waste of life/lives.
if that is so do you not also think that the remark below may have set the angles for that tangent??
"Hubs made an interesting observation: "at least she saw to it there was one less drug dealer on the streets of Sydney".
I don't doubt that Harriets addiction is any less insatiable than Daniels was.
and I also do not doubt that if the drug was available legally that Daniel would probably not be dead and both he and
Harriet may have been able to seek the help they needed rather lining organized crimes pockets on a merry go round
ride that will never ever ever end very well until society leaves 1930's prohibition ideas where they belong
..... in the past...
colic - it wasn't canabis that Harriet was hooked on, it was crystal meth, ice, and maybe more than we have heard so far, it was the hard stuff, and while I have no problem with the legalisation of canabis/marijuana, I really don't want to see the day that chemically enhanced drugs are made legal - do you ??
And therein lies the dilemma, where do you stop ?? - legalise mara, then hash, then coke, then ...............
a line has to be drawn somewhere and I guess zero tolerance to me (personally) is preferable to all manner of krap being available.
on 15-08-2014 11:25 AM
@am*3 wrote:
@Icy wrote:
Hubs made an interesting observation: "at least she saw to it there was one less drug dealer on the streets of Sydney".
Perhaps you better read the title of the thread again. Charged with murder... Not convicted and found guilty. It is comments like that that get these type of threads removed.
You can rest easy and let me worry about this thread being removed or not.