on 27-02-2014 10:58 AM
More world reality.
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The video tape below shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker.
The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties.
So the Russian Navy Commandos freed their compatriots and the tanker, and then moved the pirates back to their own pirate ship. The Russians searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives, and found plenty! And then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it.
Yes, the commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates and without any court proceedings, lawyers, etc. They used the anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually, they were hanged.
Video: http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html
on 27-02-2014 12:46 PM
What was the name of the oil tanker?
on 27-02-2014 12:46 PM
@bluecat*dancing wrote:That's cruelty, not justice.
are you saying there was any doubt that they were pirates? some of them may have just been innocents - along for the ride? They didn't deserve a trial.
probably sinking the ship with them chained was a little bit off, they should have shot them first.
27-02-2014 12:46 PM - edited 27-02-2014 12:47 PM
The news report on this incident (2010) claim the Russians put the pirates (alive) on a boat (without navigation equipment) and sent them off. They most likely died on the journey.
Other Somalian pirates, claim the returned priates, were shot first then, put in a boat
They could have been tried in a third country, but in the past they just get to the third country then escape.
on 27-02-2014 12:49 PM
on 27-02-2014 12:52 PM
I watched the video on the link - it is graphic- and shows [amongst other things] the boat exploding.
on 27-02-2014 12:53 PM
Somali pirates reported dead after being set adrift without navigational gear
Wed 12 May 2010
Ten captured Somali piracy suspects are thought to have died after the Russian navy released them in an inflatable boat without navigational equipment, Russian media are reporting. An unnamed source told Russia's Interfax news agency yesterday: "It seems that they all died."
The alleged pirates seized the container ship Moscow University - carrying $50m of crude oil - on May 5 in the Gulf of Aden. Marines from the Russian warship Marshal Shaposhnikov, which patrols the pirate-infested Gulf as part of an international force, stormed the ship the following day, freeing the unharmed crew.
Initially, Russia said the suspected pirates would be taken to Moscow to face trial, but Colonel Alexei Kuznetzov later announced that "imperfections in international law" meant they would instead be released.
An international maritime treaty means suspected pirates can be tried in the home countries of their victims – but some governments have been put off this course of action for fear that convicted pirates might not return to Somalia after serving out their time in jail. Kuznetzov seemed to echo this when he said: "Why should we feed some pirates?"
Russian media reported that the 10 men were set adrift in a boat with no navigational equipment, and that contact was lost with the boat's radio beacon within an hour. However, Commander John Harbour, a spokesman for the EU naval force in Somalia, told the BBC that the loss of navigation equipment would not necessarily be critical and that the signal from the beacon could vanish if the battery ran out or it entered a satellite blind spot.
One Somali news website reported a conversation with an unidentified pirate who claimed the men were indeed dead – but said they had all been shot before they were loaded into the skiff. There is no evidence for this account, and photographs from the Moscow University seem to support Russian reports that marines killed one pirate in a firefight, and took the other ten captive.
Commander Harbour observed that the Russian navy was within its rights to release the men as it did – and it is probable that the boat they were returned to was one of their own. He congratulated the Russians on a "brave" and successful action against piracy.
The Russian announcement that the men were probably dead led immediately to a **bleep**-for-tat threat from the pirates. Somali media reported one pirate as saying: "In future, if we capture Russians they will meet the same fate as those they executed."
If this sabre-rattling translates into deaths it will reflect a recent escalation in violence in the region, as reported previously on The First Post, and could endanger the many hostages taken by the pirates, including British couple Paul and Rachel Chandler, held captive since last autumn.
Previously, the pirates have always treated their hostages well. In part, no doubt, this is to ensure ransom payments – but it may also reflect the fact that some do not want to see themselves as pirates and have turned to hostage-taking as a last resort to escape desperate poverty in a violence-riven country with no functioning government.
In January, Rachel Chandler told a French journalist: "We have not much time left and are being badly treated." There have been no statements from the couple since then. ·
on 27-02-2014 12:54 PM
I didn't watch the video. The spiel in the opening post & a video (probably same one) comes from a blog/website and appears on many others.
on 27-02-2014 12:55 PM
@lind9650 wrote:Sounds terrible, but what else would one expect from Russian soldiers when faced with the regaining of an oiltanker from the pirates. Piracy is rampant in some waters and getting worse.
Should the russians have let the pirates go to find more ships to rob?
Taking them back to russia for some trial by a court would cost an awful lot of money that Russia does not have, and the end result would most likely be death for the pirates.
Don't forget, Russian laws are not like our laws.
Erica
So you believe they sank the ship with the Somalis on board?
on 27-02-2014 12:59 PM
@bluecat*dancing wrote:I watched the video on the link - it is graphic- and shows [amongst other things] the boat exploding.
Who was on board when it exploded?
on 27-02-2014 01:07 PM
"The alleged pirates " ?????????????
They boarded a ship armed to the teeth and took over command of the ship - what else would they be??? 'alleged' - my fat aunt.
People are 'alleged' when there is some doubt, or in our legal system until they are proven guilty. I'll say again, was there any doubt what their intentions were??
If the Russians set them adrift 300km away from shore, knowing they had little or no hope of making it, that would have been more cruel that shooting them. They probably did shoot them, but they are not going to come out and say so, are they?