25-07-2020 11:07 PM - edited 25-07-2020 11:08 PM
Offensive place names. I this day and age I can't believe they are still named as such!
I saw the post below from the discussion that has now been locked. Wow! I didn't even know about this place. We're in the 21st century and there are still places named like this. What's wrong with Australia?????
Re: Coon cheese's name to be changed over racism concerns [ Edited ]
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@rogespeed wrote:
in reply to zanadoo_5647 minutes ago - last edited 43 minutes ago
I suppose they will want to change Mount Niggerhead's name next.
So I did a search on the Internet and this came up.
An Aboriginal group plans to sue the Victorian Government for ignoring its heritage in the renaming of Mt Niggerhead, a mountain in the Alpine National Park.
November 17, 2008 — 11.02amFor decades, the 1846-metre Mount Niggerhead in the state's north-east has been at the centre of a heated debate about its name.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/aboriginal-group-outraged-over-naming-of-mountain-20081117-68gq.html
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Why Niggerhead Rock and Suicide Bay need Tasmanian Aboriginal names
Posted SatSaturday 6 MayMay 2017 at 11:58am, updated SatSaturday 6 MayMay 2017 at 2:57pm
Niggerhead Rock 'pretty damn offensive'
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**bleep** Head Facts for Kids - Kiddle encyclopedia
kids.kiddle.co › Nigger_HeadMay 22, 2020 - **bleep** Head is a small island in the northern part of Shelburne Bay in far north Queensland, Australia about 30 km north of Cape Grenville, ...
So there are three places in Australia with this name. Again, this is 2020, something very wrong with our history and society. Very wrong. If they can bring Uluru back, then why not get rid of these disgusting names? They were named in a time when the people who had the power to name them as such because certain races were deemed to be inferior.
I haven't had a look at all of them to see if any of the names have been changed. I hope one has.
BTW: Kudos to Mr. Hagan for getting the offensive name of that sports oval changed.
on 27-07-2020 02:20 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@*tippy*toes* wrote:I work with a black African woman. I got completely lambasted years ago because I said the word "black" in front of her. I got called racist, pig, lots of other words that I can't put here because they'll be bleeped. I was discussing a black dress. Apparently that's racist. Yet, if she mentioned she'd just bought a white car, no-one would bat an eyelid. Was she offended by my mention of a black dress? Not one single bit. She couldn't see what the fuss was about.
Another time I mentioned I have a genuine question to ask. I asked how she knew if she was sunburnt. Again, the chronically outraged went spastic. I thought I was going to be hung, drawn and quartered. Again, she couldn't see why the lynch mob were going ballistic. She replied to me "my skin hurts when I'm sunburnt". Hmmm, yeah, that makes sense!
As a black woman, what SHE finds offensive are terms like "woman of colour", "dark skinned", "non white". As she has said a thousand times "I am a black woman and I am proud to be black".
As for offensive place names:
Coonamble
Coonabarrabran
Coonawarra
Blacktown
Blackheath
Just to name a few.
Now lets sit back and what the chronically outraged carry on about how many times I used the word black in my post.
My Italian-born Daugher-in-law in England thought she'd invite her new (black) neighbours in for coffee. They had a little boy that would have made a good playmate for her little boy (my youngest grandson).
This is her story.
They were quite well off black Africans, running a business in the UK., They finally deigned to come over after several invitations.
DIL offered coffee.
"do you like your coffee black or white"?
There was stunned silence. The couple looked at each other. Shortly aftewards, they excused themselves and left.
There was no further communication. If they met each other shopping or in the street, they would ignore DIL.
She was very hurt about it.
There was no question of the little boys becoming playmates.
They sound like the kinda people she wouldnt want to be friends with, totally up themselves
on 27-07-2020 02:56 PM
I just say do you take milk in your coffee
on 27-07-2020 03:02 PM
on 27-07-2020 03:03 PM
SA - the winner so far.
South Australia has many other wonderful towns and landmarks, such as Bull**bleep** Hill, Cream Puff Corner, Mount Buggery, the Boobs and Break Wind Reserve.
Now that will test the mods. lol
on 27-07-2020 03:30 PM
on 27-07-2020 04:05 PM
@wide-world-of-stamps wrote:
I just ask "how do you like your coffee?"
The reply then tells me if they take milk (and often how much), and how many sugars, if any.
Quick, easy and (hopefully) inoffensive.
I guess, if you're not looking to give offense, you don't understand the taking of offense.
27-07-2020 04:31 PM - edited 27-07-2020 04:32 PM
@*tippy*toes* wrote:I work with a black African woman. I got completely lambasted years ago because I said the word "black" in front of her. I got called racist, pig, lots of other words that I can't put here because they'll be bleeped. I was discussing a black dress. Apparently that's racist. Yet, if she mentioned she'd just bought a white car, no-one would bat an eyelid. Was she offended by my mention of a black dress? Not one single bit. She couldn't see what the fuss was about.
Another time I mentioned I have a genuine question to ask. I asked how she knew if she was sunburnt. Again, the chronically outraged went spastic. I thought I was going to be hung, drawn and quartered. Again, she couldn't see why the lynch mob were going ballistic. She replied to me "my skin hurts when I'm sunburnt". Hmmm, yeah, that makes sense!
As a black woman, what SHE finds offensive are terms like "woman of colour", "dark skinned", "non white". As she has said a thousand times "I am a black woman and I am proud to be black".
As for offensive place names:
Coonamble
Coonabarrabran
Coonawarra
Blacktown
Blackheath
Just to name a few.
Now lets sit back and what the chronically outraged carry on about how many times I used the word black in my post.
To bring some sanity into the debate it would be helpful to first know why a place was named, then a better judgement can be considered - or else as the language creates new meanings to common words that become mainstream , more and more places will become vilified, Coon cheese is a classic example of foreign inspired virtue warriors stigmatised a noble product whose name was from the owner's surname
on 27-07-2020 04:35 PM
@lionrose.7 wrote:I just say do you take milk in your coffee
cow's milk....
on 27-07-2020 04:40 PM
@*kazumi* wrote:
The problem is when the word is used as an insult, which it was in the past, but from going to various American forums, the American Africans describe themselves as black. I personally think describing them as "American Africans" should be offensive; most lived in the USA for longer than many migrants from Europe, yet nobody says "European Americans", and there are some who think that black people should be sent back to Africa.
I think they say "African Americans" rather than "American Africans". Seems like only a small difference but it puts quite a different meaning on the phrase.
on 27-07-2020 04:43 PM
I think to many influencers within society are becoming so trite yet indignant if affronted , that many can not cope with dealing with the legitimate use of a word and it's use in other contexts as a metaphor - therefor the default reaction is to banish the word