on โ05-03-2014 09:09 AM
Do the Unions have a right to demand that a private business open up the books so that they can look at them and tell them how to run their business?
This demand has always baffled me.... what right does anyone other than the business owners have to look at the financials of a business? It did no good when they demanded this of Toyota and Holden.... so why do it with Qantas?
If the unions think they can do better go and take your millions, pool them together and open up your own business and employ your own people.
Why does a business have to bow down to Unions like that. Fair enough look after your workers, make sure they have a safe environment and fair pay but what gives them the rights to go right into the heart of a business?
Does a business not have the right to hire and fire who they want and to grow the business as they feel.... or am I misled in that thought????
on โ05-03-2014 10:37 PM
I think this thread is rather odd, irrelevant even.
"Financial reports are available on ASIC's public register. To locate a specific company's financial report you can complete a company name search on Organisations & Business Names"
"Large proprietary companies, public companies, disclosing entities and registered investment schemes must provide ASIC with their financial reports within four (4) months after the end of their financial year"
"so why do it with Qantas"
Qantas is a publicly listed company, not that I have ever had the inclination to buy shares in it.
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on โ05-03-2014 11:42 PM
on โ06-03-2014 08:24 AM
Are unions open to the same scrutiny as companies? are they liable under company law to be responsible stewards of millions of dollars of workers money? are unions liable under law for corruption the same as companies?
I think the answer to all the above is NO.
The RC will be interesting and the laws going to be passed to bring unions under the same umbrella as companies is a good thing, but not as far as the unions are concerned, it's just a witch hunt but they have gone real quiet haven't they.
on โ06-03-2014 08:27 AM
Thanks for your graph and research MM.
The unions are just bullying and the blowhard antics? is just that and they know it.
I wonder how the freeze on wages and conditions will go down with the unions, didn't seem to matter to them at Toyota, they just drove the company into the ground then blamed PM Abbott.
on โ06-03-2014 09:28 AM
Thanks for that MM, I didn't even consider that the information is already available. Of course it is.....
So the Unions don't need to ask to look at the books like they have been demanding as they have the relevant information at their finger tips.
on โ06-03-2014 09:37 AM
the details reqd are not already available. the information they seek is not published in annual reports.
i do agree that this thread is not relevant as MM says.
on โ06-03-2014 09:54 AM
When it becomes law for the unions to be subject to the same as company laws then we will see a difference and an end to the thieving and corruption. We live in hope.
on โ06-03-2014 09:58 AM
well no, in the scenario you speak of they would have to be far worse. nobody is as bent as elements of business, we need unions as a bulwark against rampant corrupt business.
on โ06-03-2014 10:19 AM
Igonoring the train that is heading towards Labor and the corrupt union movement is going to be excruciating for Labor and the corrupt unions.
The money tap, the rivers of cash, will have to be accounted for.