Our indigenous people did not exist before British settlement

[i-need-a-martini]

...according to Tony Abbott.

Another gaffe and another insight into his thinking. This is what he told people at a conference yesterday:

“I guess our country owes its existence to a form of foreign investment by the British government in the then unsettled or, um, scarcely-settled, Great South Land,” he said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-says-australia-benefited-from-fore...

[i-need-a-martini]

Just a reminder.

This is what he said:

“I guess our country owes its existence to a form of foreign investment by the British government in the then unsettled or, um, scarcely-settled, Great South Land,”

Whilst he did not say "The indigensous people did not exist prior to British government settlement" his statement suggests that there was NO SETTLEMENT prior to the British government landing here.

Clearly he realised he was about to put his big foot in his even bigger mouth by then quantifying it rather badly by saying: "...or, um, scarcely-settled..." 

But too late. His thought processes (or lack of them) were already obvious.

He clearly believes (subconciously or otherwise) that this land was not inhabited prior to the British government who began investing here as soon as they landed.

[fourandsixpants]

[icyfroth]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Just a reminder.

This is what he said:

“I guess our country owes its existence to a form of foreign investment by the British government in the then unsettled or, um, scarcely-settled, Great South Land,”

Whilst he did not say "The indigensous people did not exist prior to British government settlement" his statement suggests that there was NO SETTLEMENT prior to the British government landing here.

Clearly he realised he was about to put his big foot in his even bigger mouth by then quantifying it rather badly by saying: "...or, um, scarcely-settled..." 

But too late. His thought processes (or lack of them) were already obvious.

He clearly believes (subconciously or otherwise) that this land was not inhabited prior to the British government who began investing here as soon as they landed.

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You can read ppls minds now, can you martini?

Considering he's been called a brainless moron that's pretty good!

I'm impressed!

 

[Anonymous]

great minds and all that

[*crikey*mate*]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Just a reminder.

This is what he said:

“I guess our country owes its existence to a form of foreign investment by the British government in the then unsettled or, um, scarcely-settled, Great South Land,”

Whilst he did not say "The indigensous people did not exist prior to British government settlement" his statement suggests that there was NO SETTLEMENT prior to the British government landing here.

Clearly he realised he was about to put his big foot in his even bigger mouth by then quantifying it rather badly by saying: "...or, um, scarcely-settled..." 

But too late. His thought processes (or lack of them) were already obvious.

He clearly believes (subconciously or otherwise) that this land was not inhabited prior to the British government who began investing here as soon as they landed.

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According to International Law at the time when the English did invest in Australia, the land was in fact unsettled.

It was only through Marbo2 that this was recognized as being legal fiction.

Hence, Mr Abbott's initial statement is correct, though admittedly his attempt to address the revised view appears clumsy, but it too is correct according to the definition of legal right to posession under Property Law.

The man didn't erase our First People. The man just needs more practise with extracting his legal training from his public speaking.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@*crikey*mate* wrote:

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According to International Law at the time when the English did invest in Australia, the land was in fact unsettled.

It was only through Marbo2 that this was recognized as being legal fiction.

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That may have been the way people thought then. But then they also thought the indigenous people were savages who were only good dead.

But you wouldn't say the latter (particularly out loud)  now would you? Because we know better now don't we? Only an idiot would refer to they way we USED to think and apply it to a situation now wouldn't they?

[boris1gary]

nero_wulf wrote:

Scarcely worth the faux outrage but the left will SCREAM and they are.

So sad, nothing better to do it seems from them

What was actually said:

When explaining why foreign investment was so important for a country like Australia, Mr Abbott said the country would be unimaginable without it.


“As a general principle we support foreign investment. Always have and always will,” he said.

“Our country is unimaginable without foreign investment.”

”I guess our country owes its existence to a form of foreign investment by the British government in the then unsettled or, um, scarcely settled, Great South Land,” he said.
Cue the outrage industry.

it beggars belief, its against the pale - but what else would we expect from the conservatives.

[bushies.girl]

I  think he knows they were here...... doesn't he spend time with the indigenous people regularly, doing building and stuff..................

Only IF the cameras are rolling lol lol  'n of course he would never charge for travelling expenses?

[icyfroth]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@*crikey*mate* wrote:

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According to International Law at the time when the English did invest in Australia, the land was in fact unsettled.

It was only through Marbo2 that this was recognized as being legal fiction.

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That may have been the way people thought then. But then they also thought the indigenous people were savages who were only good dead.

But you wouldn't say the latter (particularly out loud)  now would you? Because we know better now don't we? Only an idiot would refer to they way we USED to think and apply it to a situation now wouldn't they?

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He still didn't say they didn't exist, Martini.

[boris1gary]

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@joz*garage wrote:

mods, can this be merged with some other stoopid thread from the left 

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yes maybe a super smart one from the right...mmmmm....maybe on....well anything would be a first.