on 08-01-2022 02:03 PM
with another day another 30,000+ cases within NSW the pandemic will surely end soon as they run out of the unvaccinated or will Camberra run out of unvaccinated first ?
Fortunately the South Africans were correct in evaluating Omicron as being highly infectious but relatively mild - almost effectively the fourth vaccine for those fated to contract
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on 13-01-2022 12:21 PM
By my estimate the ACT has only about 1300 unvaxxed left so i am eagerly awaiting the daily report to be lodged to consult new cases , which it has been posted now , which is 1020 new cases so only 80 unvaxxed remaining ......
Of additional interest active cases has reduced by nett 597
At that rate in less than 2 weeks will not be any more active cases so will be safe to conclude that the vaxxx program has worked as described for covid-19 for a large population in the real Australian conditions
on 13-01-2022 01:22 PM
@rogespeed wrote:Clinical tests were supposed to be at least double-blind .... but is that literal or legal blindness...... ( warning : intended metaphor and/or play on words)
No metaphor reply: Yes, clinical tests are double-blind. (Double-blind randomised control studies.) They are not "at least" double blind, as triple blind RCTs are very rare. As long as the participants and the data collectors (health care professionals) are unaware of the assigned treatment, and especially if allocation concealment is used, elimination of bias is extremely successful.
Metaphor-containing reply: A jocular approach always contains an ocular approach... but let's put a lid on it.
13-01-2022 05:04 PM - edited 13-01-2022 05:08 PM
@rogespeed wrote:By my estimate the ACT has only about 1300 unvaxxed left so i am eagerly awaiting the daily report to be lodged to consult new cases , which it has been posted now , which is 1020 new cases so only 80 unvaxxed remaining ......
Of additional interest active cases has reduced by nett 597
At that rate in less than 2 weeks will not be any more active cases so will be safe to conclude that the vaxxx program has worked as described for covid-19 for a large population in the real Australian conditions
rogespeed, you must be pulling our leg...
As is obvious (and I am sure you know, which increases my suspicion that you are indeed making vigorous orthopaedic tugs), the official case numbers in the ACT are not accurate. There are insufficient testing facilities, insufficient staff to perform the tests (with many of them ill with COVID-19), insufficient materials required for the taking and processing of tests, lack of RATs, and in any case the ACT government is only going to start allowing the online reporting of RAT results tomorrow.
Therefore, we can't say "active cases have reduced by nett 597", because frankly we have no idea how many active cases there are.
It is therefore not "safe to conclude" anything from the numbers.
You say that by your reckoning there are only about 1300 unvaccinated people in the ACT. According to yesterday's vaccine rollout update, there are 393,519 Canberrans, excluding infants and children aged less than 5. Of those, there are 362,113 who are fully vaccinated (that is, with 2 doses), which makes it 92.02%.
In numbers, that's ~1,480 who are either unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated.
22.29% have had their booster shot.
You seem somehow to be equating "new cases" with "number of unvaccinated people who have become infected with COVID-19". That is certainly not how it works. Please tell me you're heaving away at our limbs!
The Omicron variant is so infectious and so able to evade immunity that it is infecting vaccinated and unvaccinated people. The rate of infection (%-wise) among the unvaccinated is higher than among the vaccinated, but 2 doses are acknowledged currently as insufficient to prevent infection.
Thankfully 2 doses is still offering sufficiently high protection against severe illness and death, although not as high as it is against Delta and earlier iterations of the virus.
3 doses is required to boost antibody response against Omicron.
You cannot calculate the current number of unvaccinated by running minus signs with the number of new daily cases and your estimate (incorrectly worked out) of those who are still not vaccinated.
By the way, it is established that previous infection does not confer the same degree of protection against Omicron as does vaccination, especially the triple dose. For some, there is no antibody response; for some, some (poor) antibody response which is insufficient to rate as protection; for some, acceptable (but not great) antibody response), and so on. Simply having caught COVID-19 before is nowhere near being protection against being re-infected, and it is possible that the second time will be worse. At any rate, those who have recovered from COVID-19 should get a vaccination shot 3 or so weeks after they are cleared. That is general advice, but of course check with your GP as an individual's health condition may merit a longer period or shorter period.
on 13-01-2022 05:38 PM
So 53,000 more people acquiring anti-covid natural resistance ...
on 13-01-2022 05:46 PM
who cares RAT tally - if active cases reduce then the end of the pandemic is near
Zero active cases means no pandemic
on 13-01-2022 05:47 PM
Limited, and an unnecessary risk, with ongoing life-long risk factors.
If one is vaccinated with two doses, the risk of severe illness and death are very low. With three doses, it's back up to around the level of protection which the vaccine gave against the original form of the virus, so... not just very low, but extremely low risk.
Most of the patients in ICU - by a very significant factor - are unvaccinated. And I should mention that at this point, the majority of patients in Australia who are in ICU have the Omicron variant. Omicron is not mild for them.
on 13-01-2022 05:48 PM
@rogespeed wrote:who cares RAT tally - if active cases reduce then the end of the pandemic is near
Zero active cases means no pandemic
Good luck with that ' thought '.
on 13-01-2022 05:51 PM
We all know what thought did
13-01-2022 05:54 PM - edited 13-01-2022 05:55 PM
Only in the mind of the anti vaxxer squad
And those fool enough to follow
Do you actually believe this 'stuff' you post, or are you just wanting to get attention however you can get it?
on 13-01-2022 06:00 PM
@rogespeed wrote:So 53,000 more people acquiring anti-covid natural resistance ...
hey Novak, where did you get this "natural resistance" stuff from. Please explain