Pauline Hanson calls for ban on Muslim immigration

[davidc4430]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-14/politics-blog-september-14/7842756

Does she not realise the muslims are here after hearing of us being over run by asians, they have come to throw the asians out of australia!

isnt that what she wanted last time she was in parliment?

just can't please some people, sheeesh!

[bushies.girl]

Hmmmm  n what about Australia's growing number homless people, who are living on the streets, am guessing they are at the bottom of the list?

[davidc4430]

the problems being, trurdbill has invited a huge number of visitors to our shores.

if 'private' organisations dont give them a roof over their heads it'll be us taxpayers building homes for them

id rather not, its bad enough we have to support them with fortnightly payments.

think of the outcry if it came out they were having homes built for them too.

[lind9650]

I came to Australia almost 60 years ago from a war toen Eastern European country, as a welcome migrant.

Did we get Government housing or Social Security payments?  NO! Nothing.

We were taken to Bonegilla Migrant Centre (converted ex-army barracks) and told it may be two to six month before jobs will be alocated. We received meals, but no money. A few men decided to hike to Melbourne and look for work, as most of us had very little money left. My first husband was in the building trade, found a job and after four weeks rented a house in Eltham and send me the money for the trainfare for me and our two children. The house was partly furnished, but no fridge, washing machine or TV. We got whaat we needed from Radio Rentals second hand goods.

When my husband left me with five children a few years later, I got a pittance help from Social Security because the Court had ordered my Ex to pay a certain amount alimony, but he never paid a penny. I was told it was up to me to chase him for the money. As far as Social Security was concerned, that was my legal income. I could never afford a Lawyer to chase after my Ex-husbnd.

I was a city girl with a profession as an Electronics Technician in Europe, but I found a house in the country and a job as a cleaner in a Hospital to support and care for my childrn without Government help.

BTW, child endowment in those days was 50 cents a fortnight per child.

Can you blame me or other migrants from that time if we get upset how spoiled new migrants are being treated. No wonder everyone from war torn countries wants to come to Australia.

Eric

[davidc4430]

a lot has changed in the past 60 years, most for the better but not everything.

would anyone like to return to the australia of 60 years ago? i doubt it.

would you want that life for your kids? of course not, you want your kids/grandkids to have all the benifits of this country that you didnt have 60 years ago. you cant say well these 'migrants' dont deserve to be looked after the same as everyone else. where would you be today if the australia of 60 years ago said no to you comming here? if i was you i'd be thanking my lucky stars you got to come to this country, its the best country in the world.

there are plenty of things that i rekon have caused problems today that were intoduced for good reasons then obused, like this singe mothers payment. what began as a way to help single mums out of difficulties has become a way of life for many young girls. leave school, get pregnant and live of the payment. whats that, need a home, well just move up the list to the top ahead of all those who have been waiting forever.

now we pay for child care so women can go to work instead of being home being a mum. but of course if there is a dad he doesnt get paid enough so mum can stay home anymore.

still, for all the problems, i'd rather live in the australia of today than the australia of 60 years ago.

[lyndal1838]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

would anyone like to return to the australia of 60 years ago? i doubt it.

still, for all the problems, i'd rather live in the australia of today than the australia of 60 years ago.

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Are you old enough to remember the Australia of 60 years ago David?

It was a much simpler time and on the whole people were a lot happier.

Children were children, not mini adults with all the problems associated with children today....very little ADD and other disorders that seem to be so prevalent today.

Kids might have been bullied at school but they did not go off and commit suicide....there was no online bullying....there was no online anything.

Parents looked out for their chidren's welfare instead of fobbing them off to after school care and therapy sessions.

Would I rather live in the Australia of 60 years ago?     Yes, I think I would, although some of the modern amenities are very nice to have.

[davidc4430]

well your welcome to the australia 60 years ago

i like my airconditioning on a stinking hot day, going to the fridge for a cold drink any time. driving my nice car also with airconditioning. and a cd player/radio.

toilet in the house not down the yard.

reliable plumbling, electrics ect.

sitting in my recliner chair watching my big screen led tv........or the one in the bedroom.  in lovely didgital colour. cricket and footy is like being at the ground without the yobbos.

getting anything i need without leaving the house almost.

cooking in a microwave oven

watching movies anytime i like.

having a modern washing machine

a vaccuum cleaner that actually sucks dirt up and not blow it out the other end.

an exhaust fan to suck the steam out of the bathroom so it doesnt get all mouldy.

paint that doesnt have lead in it.

building material that doesnt have asbestos in it.

drugs to cure so many things not available 60 years ago

modern hospitals with all the trappings.

must be a lot of other things id not give up for a 'simpler' time.

[not_for_sale2025]

I'm not sure you're getting what Lyndal has suggested about her experience David. It's not all about the material advantages that exist now, and that life is easier. Sure, that is one way of looking at it, but another is viewing how society was then compared to how it is now. While it is before my time, I would go back to the 50s if I could, based on what I know about that era. Young people were just starting to find a place in a society that was largely designed around middle aged adults i.e. fashion, cinema, art etc.

But the teenagers started to force a place for themselves and it was successful and irreversible. It was the beginning of something that unfolded with naivety, inexperience and too a degree innocence. It must have been a wonderful time to be alive IMO. Sure, the standard of living is probably better now if that's your bag, but that doesn't mean society is better. I guess the only people who can make comment worth paying attention to are those who are old enough to have experienced the changes.

[not_for_sale2025]

Addendum and correction to my previous post:

Life is probably not easier now from a social perspective, only from a material one!

[lyndal1838]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

well your welcome to the australia 60 years ago

60 years is niot all that long ago.

i like my airconditioning on a stinking hot day, going to the fridge for a cold drink any time. driving my nice car also with airconditioning. and a cd player/radio.

Air conditioning was available for homes and all the main city shops were air conditioned.  Fridges were also quite common....we had one for as long as I can remember and there were always cold drinks available,

We also had a car.....a very comfortable car complete with a radio.

toilet in the house not down the yard.

Yep, indoor toilet also.   Even my grandparents didn't have a backyard dunny....we were a pretty civilised bunch in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney.

reliable plumbling, electrics ect.

Yep, reliable plumbing (with no water restrictions) and we even had electric lights.....none of that old fashioned gas lighting for us.

sitting in my recliner chair watching my big screen led tv........or the one in the bedroom.  in lovely didgital colour. cricket and footy is like being at the ground without the yobbos.

No recliner chair but my grandmother had a lovely rocking chair which was very comfortable,  And no TV until I was 7....but the radio was well used.   What you don't have you don't miss.

Hate digital TV....I always had far better reception from my old analogue set.

Never having been to a cricket or footy match in my ife nor watched it on TV I cannot comment in that.

getting anything i need without leaving the house almost.

It was possible to order most things over the phone for home delivery (ever heard of mail order catalogues) but I do admit that the internet is great for those of us who cannot get out and about.....it is nice to see what we are buying from all angles.

cooking in a microwave oven

Yes, a microwave is handy but it is not the be all and end all of cooking appliances.....again, what you didn't have you didn't miss.

watching movies anytime i like.

Whatever floats your boat....when I was growing up we actually talked to our families and friends instead of being glued to a TV set.   Movies at the weekend with my friends was an outing to be enjoyed.

a modern washing machine

Yep, had one of them new fangled washing machines too....stick the washing in, turn it on then come back to hang it out when it was finished.  If my mum wanted a good white wash she could even use my Nana's copper.

a vaccuum cleaner that actually sucks dirt up and not blow it out the other end.

Would you believe we even had very effective vacuum cleaners 60 years ago?  My grandmothers both had a Hoover upright and my Mum had a Hoover and later an Electrolux barrel machine.

an exhaust fan to suck the steam out of the bathroom so it doesnt get all mouldy.

No, no exhaust fan in the bathroom....but we did have floating ceilings in the bathroom and kitchen to let the steam escape.

I still have floating ceilings in this house and it is easy to open a window you know....we did have windows 60 years ago.

paint that doesnt have lead in it.

Yes, granted that is an improvement but it was not a problem....we taught our kids not to lick the walls 60 years ago.

building material that doesnt have asbestos in it.

Again, a modern improvement.

drugs to cure so many things not available 60 years ago

And that is a modern improvement that is still evolving....we are alway going to be able to cure new illnesses.  But then again, there are so many illnesses around now that were not in evidence 60 years ago....like Aids.  New era, new illnesses to be cured.

My grandfather died of pneumonia in 1940, 70 years later my OH spent 3 day in hospital to be cured.

modern hospitals with all the trappings.

Hospitals were modern for their time 60 years ago....and you did not have to wait hours/month/years for treatment.  And you did not have to mortgage your home to be able to afford to go to hospital....and doctors did house calls.

must be a lot of other things id not give up for a 'simpler' time.

As you can see, we did not give up all that much.  Actually, we did not "give up" anything...some things just had not been invented.

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[not_for_sale2025]

"paint that doesnt have lead in it.

Yes, granted that is an improvement but it was not a problem....we taught our kids not to lick the walls 60 years ago".

LOL