Pell compares priests to truckers

[***super_nova***]

He really did say this:

"If a driver sexually assaulted a passenger they picked up along the way,  I don't think it appropriate for the … leadership of that company be held responsible.''

Comparing children attending church to hitchhikers?!!!!!!!!!!! 

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/pell-compares-priests-to-truckers-as-victims-g...

[cherry*135]

As in many were not dismissed either but moved to other parishes or even to other countries like Ireland.

How many were charged decades ago at the time the abuse happened?

[azureline**]

---

@**what_would_bob_do** wrote:

---

@azureline** wrote:

---

@tall_bearded01 wrote:

The problem is this is exactly what the Catholic Church didn’t do.

They didn’t dismiss them. They didn’t move them to a position where they could no longer offend. They knew the offending was happening but left the offender where they were, in the full knowledge that they would continue to offend.

---

Not entirely true.................... many were dismissed from the priesthood, many had charges laid against them.They are not the ones we hear about.

---

When you say not entirely true you're essentially saying it's mostly or partly true. You have conceded the point. 

---

what I am saying is it is not correct to say this:They didn’t dismiss them.

[cherry*135]

Why.. Do you think that should say some were dismissed but not all?

How many were dismissed and appropriate action taken.. Abuse reported to police? The Church(es) went to great lengths to keep the abuse quiet.

How were many dismissed ( and charged) in the 1950's or 1960's or 1970's?

[cherry*135]

One they should have dismissed and had charged in the 1960's. 😞


Pedophile priest John Sidney Denham tells court he destroyed lives

The Australian

22 August, 2015

Denham, a former Catholic priest and schoolteacher, was giving evidence at a sentencing hearing in Sydney after pleading guilty to 25 charges relating to offences against 20 victims. He has asked the judge to take a further 23 charges into account.

The 71-year-old has previously been convicted of abusing a further 39 young boys in the St Pius X Catholic High School in the NSW Hunter Valley between 1968 and 1986.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/pedophile-priest-john-sidney-denham-tells-court-he-destr...

[the_bob_delusion]

---

@azureline** wrote:

---

@**what_would_bob_do** wrote:

---

@azureline** wrote:

---

@tall_bearded01 wrote:

The problem is this is exactly what the Catholic Church didn’t do.

They didn’t dismiss them. They didn’t move them to a position where they could no longer offend. They knew the offending was happening but left the offender where they were, in the full knowledge that they would continue to offend.

---

Not entirely true.................... many were dismissed from the priesthood, many had charges laid against them.They are not the ones we hear about.

---

When you say not entirely true you're essentially saying it's mostly or partly true. You have conceded the point. 

---

what I am saying is it is not correct to say this:They didn’t dismiss them.

---

A guy said he didn't beat his wife every day just some of the days. Is it right to say he didn't beat his wife?

[***super_nova***]

I woud like to know how many of those who knew and covered up are now in high positions in any church or other organisation?

[tall_bearded01]

You don’t seem to get the thrust of what is being said. The sexual abuse of a child is a crime. It was a crime in the 1940’s and in fact well before that. It was a crime in the 1950’s, 60’s and in fact, to the present and ongoing, it is still a crime.

Therefore, if in some cases, as you say, the Church stepped in and punished (for want of a better word) their employee by dismissing them, then that’s the employment side of the problem sorted, in the context of that case in isolation.

But their responsibility didn’t end with the dismissal. A crime had been committed on Church property by (for want of a better word) a Church employee. They therefore had, not only a moral, but also a legal obligation to report the matter to the police.

[karliandjacko]

---

@am*3 wrote:
One they should have dismissed and had charged in the 1960's. 😞


Pedophile priest John Sidney Denham tells court he destroyed lives

The Australian

22 August, 2015

Denham, a former Catholic priest and schoolteacher, was giving evidence at a sentencing hearing in Sydney after pleading guilty to 25 charges relating to offences against 20 victims. He has asked the judge to take a further 23 charges into account.

The 71-year-old has previously been convicted of abusing a further 39 young boys in the St Pius X Catholic High School in the NSW Hunter Valley between 1968 and 1986.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/pedophile-priest-john-sidney-denham-tells-court-he-destr...

---

How did you get the story from next year's Australian?

😄

[cherry*135]

Crystal ball 😉

[bushies.girl]

Omg I am NOT going to "split hairs" over how many were or were not dismissed ..... Who cares?  What I care about is the innocent children who were abused and the total failure of the church to report the abuse the police