Personal Freedom

[softail-joanie]

What does it mean?, to you. What do you believe it means to others? Should we be telling people what they can and can't have in their homes, carry with them in public?

If someone had something that they might possiblly be able to use to harm someone else, even if they had not done so, should we apply pre crime rules and take that item away? If it was a similar item to what others have used to harm others, should we punnish all who might want to have or carry said item?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRKBChzCbmU

[poddster]

It's actually Betelgeuse 🙂

[chuk_77]

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@softail-joanie wrote:

What does it mean?, to you. What do you believe it means to others? Should we be telling people what they can and can't have in their homes, carry with them in public?

If someone had something that they might possiblly be able to use to harm someone else, even if they had not done so, should we apply pre crime rules and take that item away? If it was a similar item to what others have used to harm others, should we punnish all who might want to have or carry said item?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRKBChzCbmU

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ok Im going to be all on topic and stuff and answer the question. (please no one go into shock)

What does it mean? Well the dictionary defines it as reedom of the person in going and coming, equality before the courts, security of private property, freedom of opinion and its expression, and freedom of conscience subject to the rights of others and of the public —

What i belive it means to others? Wouldnt have a clue how other people interpret the dictionary meaning

I dont know who "we" is to be able to answer that

I dont know what you are talking about carrying in public so cant answer that

If someone has something that is against the law for them to have then yes, take it wawy from them. But I dont know what "said item" you are refering to

As for your video? I dont open your links.

[softail-joanie]

i am havoc 4 ur souls

ur words bounces off me and there it goes

the ocean waves and the river flows

my words R havoc 4 ur souls

The Message of Freedom in One Minute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5lhkNUtkBA

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[softail-joanie]

It takes fingers to pull a trigger, hands to hold the gun, arms to reach for the gun, and feet and legs to go find a gun. If you ban the gun,  you may as well ban the arms and legs, that's all there is to it. If you don't get rid of the arms and legs your gonna have people stabbing people with knives, or throwing things. No arms and legs solves the problem, and we might ought to think about teeth as well

Thats the fly way to look at it

[***super_nova***]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Joanie, i cannot see you being part of a well regulated anything, let alone Militia, and therefore I cannot see how the 2nd amendment would apply to you in any shape or form. 

[softail-joanie]

I never said it did, this topic is about freedom, personal freedom. Also, you might want to take note of the comma , , ,,,,,, between well regulated Militia, and the right of the people, in the 2A .

I'm agreeing with you, but we need to lose our arms and legs, maybe teeth too though. We can't be trusted with them, we are humans after all and might start thinking we have natural or God given rights. we might want to assert our personal freedom or some such crazy thing. Can't have that

[k0llectable5]

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@softail-joanie wrote:

I never said it did, this topic is about freedom, personal freedom. Also, you might want to take note of the comma , , ,,,,,, between well regulated Militia, and the right of the people, in the 2A .

I'm agreeing with you, but we need to lose our arms and legs, maybe teeth too though. We can't be trusted with them, we are humans after all and might start thinking we have natural or God given rights. we might want to assert our personal freedom or some such crazy thing. Can't have that

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I can see what you are doing there lol, hyperbole is actually okay when used in the right context in a discussion 😉  

I am sick and tired of the "babysitter" mentality of alot of people.  Most people actually are responsible.  And all this society comes before the individual BS.  Sorry but if I had to choose between "society" or my family.  Ya'll know where I think society can go jump.  People have to live and let live.  Have the freedom to make their own decisions on what they believe to be right for their themselves and their family.  Laws must be in place to ensure those that break them all the time are punished appropriately.  But we need to stop vilifying good people, especially those that notice a red flag pop up here and there, when certain events occur or when the media covers certain issues. Alternate media and mainstream media very rarely agree on any major topic.  Infact the independent journalism out there will debunk most of the official narratives we are fed these days.  

Thirty years ago we didn't have YT let alone mass internet.  It was the printed press, free to air broadcasting and radio.  As a general question; When tv "news" tells you something how often do you go and find 3 extra sources independent from each other that verify what the "news" has just told you? If we are all completely honest I doubt many of us could say that we actually do that.  Plus it's hard sometimes to find sources independent from each other, because when one news outlet starts spouting something ie; Iraq is hiding weapons of mass destruction, the rest just follow suit.  

My point is dont let govt and society dictate to you how you ought to think.  Think critically about everything, follow your gut feeling, it's actually there for a reason, and love your frikk3n neighbour **bleep**.  Even if you hate them, you still gotta love em.  If you cant love them, learn to forgive them or move somewhere closer to ones that you can love.  I normally cant stand the "all we need is love" rhetoric, but the older I get, the more I realize it's hate that holds us back.  It's a bit like all these new "anti-hate" laws.  What essentially is anti-hate? It's love right? Oh no but we cant say to people "Hey guys come on now love your neighbours a little more and alot of our problems will go away" That just sounds like fanatical christian talk...

[the_great_she_elephant]

“I could never conceive or tolerate any Utopia which did not leave to me the liberty for which I chiefly care, the liberty to bind myself. Complete anarchy would not merely make it impossible to have any discipline or fidelity; it would also make it impossible to have any fun. The dissolution of all contracts would not only ruin morality but spoil sport.” 

(G. K. Chesterton)