Pets can be bought online in China

[davidc4430]

Live animals can be bought online in China, but they might not arrive that way

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-11/live-animals-bought-online-in-china-and-mailed-in-the-post/10...

i have bought tropical fish online from aussie sellers, my limited experience is those sellers have done a super job, the fish arrive in sturdy foam boxes via courier. they are packed in designed fish bags usually doubled up and sealed well from leaking. pure oxygen is put into the bags not just air. instructions are included to tell you how to best introduce the new fish to your tank.

and they usually have an 'arive alive' garantee.

[zanadoo_56]

I'll bet the horse and pony world has a long tradition of importing to Oz. 

I mostly mentioned cats because I used to breed and show them and it's a subject I personally know something about.

I wonder how many pedigree breeds can trace their show origins to one animal.  For the modern Burmese cat it is Wong Mau in 1930, and even then she turned out to be part Siamese. 🙂  I knew one breeder who spent some time tracing her cats' lineage back to Wong Mau.

[davidc4430]

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@zanadoo_56 wrote:

I'll bet the horse and pony world has a long tradition of importing to Oz. 

I mostly mentioned cats because I used to breed and show them and it's a subject I personally know something about.

I wonder how many pedigree breeds can trace their show origins to one animal.  For the modern Burmese cat it is Wong Mau in 1930, and even then she turned out to be part Siamese. 🙂  I knew one breeder who spent some time tracing her cats' lineage back to Wong Mau.

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the scottish fold are the only one i know of that has a clear 'it started here' story.

[zanadoo_56]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

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@zanadoo_56 wrote:

I'll bet the horse and pony world has a long tradition of importing to Oz. 

I mostly mentioned cats because I used to breed and show them and it's a subject I personally know something about.

I wonder how many pedigree breeds can trace their show origins to one animal.  For the modern Burmese cat it is Wong Mau in 1930, and even then she turned out to be part Siamese. 🙂  I knew one breeder who spent some time tracing her cats' lineage back to Wong Mau.

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the scottish fold are the only one i know of that has a clear 'it started here' story.

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There are others.  (Wong Mau actually came from Thailand near the Thai-Burma border BTW). 

However....the original Turkish Van cat (the ones that like to swim) definitely came from Turkey. 

The first Cornish Rex cat was found in Cornwall, and the Devon Rex in Devon, and the Manx cat came from the Isle of Man. 

Give me time and I might be able to think of some more. 🙂

[lyndal1838]

You can make a pretty good guess when you see their full breed names.....the Siamese, the Maine Coon and the Abyssinian 0spring to mind.

[zanadoo_56]

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@davidc4430 wrote:
but me, i would never buy a cat or dog without meeting the dog or cat first.

thats why i now choose greyhounds and burmese. greyhounds are plentiful and need the homes. burmese have the right temperment and breeders via the governing body are easy to locate. wish they still cost $200 like my first one did though, Rosie cost $800.

but spread over 15+ years its not so bad.

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When I used to breed Burmese (and this tells you how long ago it was) most show and breeding quality kittens were under $100, unless one or both of the parents were champion imports (pet quality kittens were cheaper).  Mind you, while there was immunisation to pay for, there was no microchipping and desexing was often up to the buyer.  Still, I used to provide diet sheets, general care info, details about the parents and siblings, history of the breed etc with every kitten. Also follow up help if needed and a money back guarantee (but no one ever gave them back) 🙂

[zanadoo_56]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

You can make a pretty good guess when you see their full breed names.....the Siamese, the Maine Coon and the Abyssinian 0spring to mind.

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Siamese are definitely from Siam (now Thailand), the Maine Coon is certainly an American cat but not necessarily from Maine depending on who's writing about them. 🙂  The same goes for Abys - possibly from North Africa (Abyssinia/Ethiopia) but who knows for sure?

The first Persian cats were imported to Italy from Iran (historically known as Persia) and from memory the Egyptian Mau is from Egypt but there are many cats also with exotic names that are artificial breeds created by cross breeding, or they are mutations (like the curly coated rex cats) that may or may not be named after where they were originally found. 

The Australian Mist (formerly known as the Spotted Mist) was developed in Oz but it took Burmese, Abys and various unpedigreed domestic cats to get the colours and patterns and personality the breed is now known for.  I have to admit, I wouldn't mind owning an Australian Mist...especially one that shows some of the Burmese characteristics.

[lyndal1838]

That is what happened when my daughter got 2 Himalayan kittens. 

As a Vet Nurse she was working with a Vet whose Aunt was breeding them....she got them at mates rates but she said she was given the 3rd degree before she was allowed to have them despite the Vet recommending her.

She was given all the paperwork such as you have mentioned.  I was given it to read and actually found it very interesting.

Unfortunately my daughter only had the kittens for 6 months before she had to leave the property where she was living with her menagerie....1 horse, 2 ponies, a German Shepherd and a Rottweiler, a moggie and the 2 Himalayan kittens.

The only property she could get was OK with the outside animals but did not want the cats inside.  The moggie went to a friend and one of the kittens went to her sister.  I inherited the second kitten because my daughter said she would never cope at her sister's place.  She was a rather timid little girl and there were people coming and going all the time at her sister's place.

She was a really sweet little girl with a wicked streak....she used to sit on the back of a high backed chair in front of the window overlooking the side gate where the dog was sitting.  She rattled the blinds and looked down on him but disappeared as soon as she attracted his attention.   It took me a while to work out why the dog was fussing at the gate.  As soon as I found what she was doing I opened the blind and showed the dog that she was there.  After that he just ignored her....it was funny to hear her rattling the blinds trying to get him to react.

[davidc4430]

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@zanadoo_56 wrote:

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@davidc4430 wrote:
but me, i would never buy a cat or dog without meeting the dog or cat first.

thats why i now choose greyhounds and burmese. greyhounds are plentiful and need the homes. burmese have the right temperment and breeders via the governing body are easy to locate. wish they still cost $200 like my first one did though, Rosie cost $800.

but spread over 15+ years its not so bad.

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When I used to breed Burmese (and this tells you how long ago it was) most show and breeding quality kittens were under $100, unless one or both of the parents were champion imports (pet quality kittens were cheaper).  Mind you, while there was immunisation to pay for, there was no microchipping and desexing was often up to the buyer.  Still, I used to provide diet sheets, general care info, details about the parents and siblings, history of the breed etc with every kitten. Also follow up help if needed and a money back guarantee (but no one ever gave them back) 🙂

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my first burmese was $200 about 25 years ago i'm guessing, i got her from a south australian breeder 'mrs joan mack' i think her name was.

she bred burmese and scottish folds (she was a very scottish lady)

when we went down to view the burmese kittens she shoed us the little scottish folds in her spare room and we put down a deposit that day, it took over a year before we got the call to say she had a kitten available.

in the mean time id bought another burmese (the first was a blue the second a chocolate)

so then we had 3 cats.

after having the scottish fold for a few months mrs mack rang to say she had another scottish fold kitten available if i was interested, i gave it a long thought (about 30 seconds) and went down and now we had 4.

the last one was so adorable.

[davidc4430]

this is a photo from 1997, its my father with Cassie about 3 months after i got her, sorry the quality of the photograph is so bad.

Cassie was the last scottish fold i had, she died in 2014 at 17 years old.

[davidc4430]

just did a quick search cant find anyone breeding scottish folds in south australia