Plane missing with 236 people on board

[freakiness]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/malaysia-airlines-lost-contact-with-plane/5307888

Malaysia Airlines says one of its planes has gone missing on the way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board.

A statement from the airline says flight MH370 lost contact with air traffic controllers at 2:40am local time, just over two hours into the flight.

The plane, a Boeing 777-200, left Kuala Lumpur at 12:41am on Saturday, and had been due to arrive in Beijing at 6:30am local time.

The company says the plane was carrying 227 passengers, including two infants, and 12 crew members.

The airline says it is contacting the next-of-kin of all passengers and crew, which includes people of 13 different nationalities.

In a statement on the airline's website, group chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said the airline was working with authorities to locate the aircraft.

"Focus of the airline is to work with the emergency responders and authorities and mobilise its full support," the statement said.

"Our thoughts and prayers are with all affected passengers and crew and their family members."

The airline says it will provide regular updates on its website.

The ABC understand Malaysia Airlines will hold a press conference on the incident shortly.

[the_great_she_elephant]

Although they are called "black boxes," aviation recorders are actually painted bright orange. This distinct color, along with the strips of reflective tape attached to the recorders' exteriors, help investigators locate the black boxes following an accident. These are especially helpful when a plane lands in the water. There are two possible origins of the term "black box": Some believe it is because early recorders were painted black, while others think it refers to the charring that occurs in post-accident fires.

Underwater Locator Beacon
In addition to the paint and reflective tape, black boxes are equipped with an underwater locator beacon (ULB). If you look at the picture of a black box, you will almost always see a small, cylindrical object attached to one end of the device. While it doubles as a handle for carrying the black box, this cylinder is actually a beacon.

If a plane crashes into the water, this beacon sends out an ultrasonic pulse that cannot be heard by human ears but is readily detectable by sonar and acoustical locating equipment. There is a submergence sensor on the side of the beacon that looks like a bull's-eye. When water touches this sensor, it activates the beacon.

The beacon sends out pulses at 37.5 kilohertz (kHz) and can transmit sound as deep as 14,000 feet (4,267 m). Once the beacon begins "pinging," it pings once per second for 30 days. This beacon is powered by a battery that has a shelf life of six years. In rare instances, the beacon may get snapped off during a high-impact collision.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/black-box8.htm

[acacia_pycnantha]

It's aliens, I tell 'ee.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@paintsew007 wrote:

to monman and she_elephant:

I say .....PROVE what you state:

1. that I 'believe' there are 'evil' people involved in this?

, 'a group' is controlling the sequence of events re. this search.

Confuse and befuddle seems to be the catch cry......with the aim being 'stall as long as possible'? for their reasons, not for our eyes or ears

This has probably got more to do with why an official investigation has not been started. (your own words. Are you suggesting this is a benevolent group?

2. that the type of ULB is what you state it is.

See my post above.

3. that I am a conspiracy theorist.

Anyone who blieves a conspiracy is taking place is a conspiracy theorist.

I am a conspiracy theorist, I believe - or at least strongly suspect that there was a conspiracy to cover up the events surrounding Troy Buswell's car crash.

You are a conspiracy theorist - you believe or strongly suspect  there is asecret group group confusing and befuddling the search for the plane for some myterious purpose of their own..

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[fourandsixpants]

to sheheffalumpo: so u say you are a conspiracy theorist.

....like *wow , i don't really give a squat.....each to their own.

I am not.

You cannot read my mind.

You don't know me.

I take offence being called one actually.

No respect just ridicule to ideas that I put forward from you and others.....

[fourandsixpants]

to ac, monman and sheheffalump:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/malaysia-airlines-black-boxes-2014-3

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The flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder in the Boeing 777-200ER are each mounted with an underwater locator beacon. When water hits the beacon, it automatically starts transmitting a signal, said Anish Patel, president of Radiant Power Corp., a subsidiary of aerospace supplier HEICO Corporation, which produced the Dukane DK120 underwater locator beacon used on many aircraft.

Patel was not sure who made the beacons on the missing Boeing 777-200ER,{therefore type of/model of beacon has not been confirmed} but said, “it’s a high probability that it’s ours.” Boeing would not comment on any aspect of the situation, except to say it “will join the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board team as a technical advisor.”

Once active, the Dukane DK120 emits a pulse once a second that can be detected by sonar equipment up to two nautical miles away. The beacon works at a depth of 20,000 feet — far deeper than the waters where officials believe the Malaysian plane went down...{SO THIS MAY BE IRRELEVANT INFORMATION}

It’s made to stay active for at least 30 days, per an FAA requirement, but may last a few days longer than that, depending on when it was made.

Lawrence Stone, chief scientist at Metron Scientific Solutions, says the beacons weren’t found after the Air France crash because they didn’t function properly. Metron, a consulting company, was hired by the French Bureau of Enquiry and Analysis for Civil Aviation Safety (BEA) to help find the wreckage after early efforts failed.

The team found both black boxes but only one beacon, which didn’t work when hooked up to a battery, Stone said in an interview, noting “those things are pretty hardy.” Patel told Business Insider the beacons are built to meet regulatory standards, and have “proved reliable in other recovery operations.”

Both men said that finding the beacons from the Malaysia plane should be much easier. The water in the search area is much shallower than that in the south Atlantic, and the area is more accessible. Asked if he’s surprised the Malaysia search has turned up nothing so far, Patel said no. “It’s a big ocean.”

Stone said, “if the pingers are working, it should be an easy search.”

[the_great_she_elephant]

I cannot read your mind, but I can read what you write. You wrote:

 'a group' is controlling the sequence of events re. this search.

Confuse and befuddle seems to be the catch cry......with the aim being 'stall as long as possible'? for their reasons, not for our eyes or ears

This has probably got more to do with why an official investigation has not been started.

Are not the people involved in this group conspirators? And are they not engaged in a conspiracy?

[fourandsixpants]

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/bahasa/article/enam-sebab-kehilangan-misteri-mh370-kata-pakar-pen...

http://translate.google.com.au/

Loss of plane mystery Malaysia Airlines ( MAS ) MH370 Penerbngan since Saturday continues to baffle experts serata world flight . At this stage , an aviation expert historical evidence suggests that may be the cause of the loss of a Boeing 777 - 200ER was 11 years old . The causes were a combination of technical oversight and juruterbang to bring to the impressions collected , kerosakan structure , human factors , adverse weather , total electrical failure and spoils plane .

According Negotiating Space and Defense Frost and Sullivan Asia Pacific , Ravi Madavaram , do not form a single factor that generally cause the plane crashing, but a combination of technical and decision kerosakan juruterbang . In one reality in Kuala Lumpur today , he said the decision kerosakan and if applicable be alone no harm. " This is applicable to the Air France 447 . There is no hint of anxiety from his deep pilots of Air France 447 ( juruterbang ) are not aware they will bahawa hinggalah 10 when crashing before he applies , " said he . Regarding kerosakan structure , Madavaram said aircraft structural failure may cause the pilot lost convoy . " This is applicable to China Airlines Flight 611 , flying at an altitude of 35,000 during leg in 2002 when a Boeing 747 ( Flight 611 ) crashes due to oversight in kerosakan full restore . Touching humanitarian factors , he asserts for instance willful action by a passenger or a pilot , causing crashing plane incident highlighted in the World Trade Center 9/11 . The expert stated circumstances such as bad weather salji , kabus , rain , and may menjejas achievement ais plane , which likely resulted in the aircraft crashing . " This goes on a Qantas flight in 2008 in Bangkok . Aircraft was landed safely with the support personnel of Auxiliary Power Unit ( APU ) , " he said . Madavaram reject the possibility MH370 deprived , you indulge is impossible for the aircraft in spite of all the contagious nature of the radar in the flight area . Explained further , he said the civil commercial aircraft have every tool perceiver , Emergency Locator Transmitters ( ELT ) , and it will be activated during the crashing plane depends on the strength of the beat or intimation given juruterbang . He said another signal light ( beacon ) attached to the Recorder tool or black box flight was called Underwater Locator Beacon ( ULB ) , and lampur this gesture will be activated only as good as it touching the water . " Supposing plane crashing in the water , the ELT will deliver cues , but it is not dull water . ULB first cue deliver just as good as he touched the water , " he said . ELT and beacons using its own battery and electrical failures not menjejas these tools . " Batteries beacon or beacon black box cooked up for life 28 days . If the beacon goes off and the black box in a plane is not dikesan the entire period , then the only hope is to find the flake and from there to the motion berundur mengesannya Cuba , " he said . - Bernama , 12 Mac , 2014."

no mention/proof of models or types

[fourandsixpants]

to monman:

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-color-red-missing-mh370-font-aviation-expert-suggests-6-reasons-fo...

"...According to him, the Under Water Beacon (ULB) can emit a signal for  hundreds of miles but if the black box is covered with debris or falls into a  trench at the bottom of the sea, then the strength and range of the signal would  be lower.

The ELT and beacons use their own batteries and electrical failure does  not affect them.   

"The batteries of the beacons of the black box beacon are designed to last  28 days. If the black box beacon battery dies and the plane is not located  within that time, then the only hope is to find the debris and try to work  backwards from there on," he said..."...

....the area where plane last tracked was  over sea but not over deep water 'trenches'

[acacia_pycnantha]

". . . ELT and beacons using its own battery and electrical failures not menjejas these tools . " Batteries beacon or beacon black box cooked up for life 28 days . If the beacon goes off and the black box in a plane is not dikesan the entire period , then the only hope is to find the flake and from there to the motion berundur mengesannya Cuba , " he said . - Bernama , 12 Mac , 2014."

Please explain.

[fourandsixpants]

to ac: read properly .....from google translate....your guess is as good as mine i guess!

but more to the point:

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-color-red-missing-mh370-font-aviation-expert-suggests-6-reasons-fo...

Under Water Beacon (ULB) can emit a signal for  hundreds of milesbut if the black box is covered with debris or falls into a  trench at the bottom of the sea, then the strength and range of the signal would  be lower.

The ELT and beacons use their own batteries and electrical failure does  not affect them.  

"The batteries of the beacons of the black box beacon are designed to last  28 days. If the black box beacon battery dies and the plane is not located  within that time, then the only hope is to find the debris and try to work  backwards from there on," he said..."...

....the area where plane last tracked was  over sea but not over deep water 'trenches'